Will MN6 Still have to be in R for shutdown?
03-14-2013, 04:51 PM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Will MN6 Still have to be in R for shutdown?
I haven't seen anything regarding if they did away with this stupid feature, has anyone heard anything about it?
Yes, it's a typo. I meant MN7
Yes, it's a typo. I meant MN7
Last edited by ldepalma; 03-14-2013 at 05:35 PM.
03-14-2013, 04:52 PM
#2
Race Director
Well, it's a MN7 now...............
03-14-2013, 05:07 PM
#4
Burning Brakes
my "non-Vette" experience is shining through obviously - I wondered why the interior pics all showed the shifter in reverse. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of - WTF would you have to be in reverse to turn the damn car off? 
03-14-2013, 05:14 PM
#5
Race Director
So, to answer you question, the "feature" has been gone for 8 years, I am CERTAIN it will NOT appear in the C7 MN7's.
Jimmy
Last edited by jimmyb; 03-14-2013 at 05:16 PM.
03-14-2013, 05:34 PM
#6
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Then allow us to educate you. The "shutdown in reverse" feature was only on the 2005 manual transmission C6's. My understanding was that it had something do with sharing electrical archetecture with the Cadillac XLR, which were all automatics. It was a PITA and led to one of the early Corvette internet acronyms....DBS (dead battery syndrome).
So, to answer you question, the "feature" has been gone for 8 years, I am CERTAIN it will NOT appear in the C7 MN7's.
Jimmy
So, to answer you question, the "feature" has been gone for 8 years, I am CERTAIN it will NOT appear in the C7 MN7's.
Jimmy
03-14-2013, 05:42 PM
#7
Burning Brakes
and here I've been driving a VW and thinking they had screwed up electronics all these years.............Appreciate the education. Hopefully this won't be a requirement for the C7. Talk about teaching an old dog (me) new tricks. I've spent the last 30 years or so putting my car in 1st when parked.
03-14-2013, 05:56 PM
#8
Former Vendor
Hate to tell you but your wrong. I have a '13 and manual says shutdown in reverse. All of the dead battery syndromes are still there if you don't put it in reverse for shutoff. Even the dealer and Vette specialist when I picked up the car last month harped on me about this....
03-14-2013, 06:04 PM
#9
Race Director
Hate to tell you but your wrong. I have a '13 and manual says shutdown in reverse. All of the dead battery syndromes are still there if you don't put it in reverse for shutoff. Even the dealer and Vette specialist when I picked up the car last month harped on me about this....
I don't know if you had a 2005 but here are all the things a 2005 MN6 would do if you didn't shut down in reverse.
1. So, for fun, shut down your car in any gear except reverse. As soon as you cut the car off, you should get 3 chimes and a "Shift to Reverse" message in the DIC.
2. If you fail to put the car in reverse, when you shut the car door to leave, the horn will beep at you 3 times.
3. Is your car doing numbers 1 and 2? If so, that's weird. If it's not, your dealer and specialist do NOT understand what caused DBS. If you know this, I apologize, but DBS in 2005 MN6's was NOT caused by folks NOT shutting down in reverse. DBS was caused in certain cars, after being shut down properly (in reverse), "waking themselves up" or becoming active, and running the battery down. My 2005 did this 3 times in 18 months (each time, the car was in reverse and no warning message/lights/horns on shut down), the condition was fixed by a computer re-flash to the BCM.
Jimmy
03-14-2013, 06:09 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Well, I don't know what to say to this. My 2008 MN6 was NEVER shut down in reverse, never left in reverse, never gave me the "Shift to reverse" message in the DIC like my 2005 did. The 2005 manual was VERY CLEAR that you MUST shut down in reverse. My 2008 manual RECOMMENDED shutting down in reverse.
I don't know if you had a 2005 but here are all the things a 2005 MN6 would do if you didn't shut down in reverse.
1. So, for fun, shut down your car in any gear except reverse. As soon as you cut the car off, you should get 3 chimes and a "Shift to Reverse" message in the DIC.
2. If you fail to put the car in reverse, when you shut the car door to leave, the horn will beep at you 3 times.
3. Is your car doing numbers 1 and 2? If so, that's weird. If it's not, your dealer and specialist do NOT understand what caused DBS. If you know this, I apologize, but DBS in 2005 MN6's was NOT caused by folks NOT shutting down in reverse. DBS was caused in certain cars, after being shut down properly (in reverse), "waking themselves up" or becoming active, and running the battery down. My 2005 did this 3 times in 18 months (each time, the car was in reverse and no warning message/lights/horns on shut down), the condition was fixed by a computer re-flash to the BCM.
Jimmy
I don't know if you had a 2005 but here are all the things a 2005 MN6 would do if you didn't shut down in reverse.
1. So, for fun, shut down your car in any gear except reverse. As soon as you cut the car off, you should get 3 chimes and a "Shift to Reverse" message in the DIC.
2. If you fail to put the car in reverse, when you shut the car door to leave, the horn will beep at you 3 times.
3. Is your car doing numbers 1 and 2? If so, that's weird. If it's not, your dealer and specialist do NOT understand what caused DBS. If you know this, I apologize, but DBS in 2005 MN6's was NOT caused by folks NOT shutting down in reverse. DBS was caused in certain cars, after being shut down properly (in reverse), "waking themselves up" or becoming active, and running the battery down. My 2005 did this 3 times in 18 months (each time, the car was in reverse and no warning message/lights/horns on shut down), the condition was fixed by a computer re-flash to the BCM.
Jimmy
http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/home.htm
Go to car info, instructions, then to vehicle approach and about 1 or 2 mitues in they will stress more then once about shutting down in reverse and if you don't there is still current until you properly put it into reverse...see for yourself.....
03-14-2013, 06:12 PM
#11
Safety Car
As others have said, this feature was disabled in 2006.
I've never shutdown my '07 MN6 in reverse. My 2007 just sat outdoor from Christmas Day 2012 until March 4th (over 70 days) in freezing weather.. and she started up on the first push of the button. If the language is still in the manual, it is because the manual needs to be updated. The system in the car has definitely been updated.
I've never shutdown my '07 MN6 in reverse. My 2007 just sat outdoor from Christmas Day 2012 until March 4th (over 70 days) in freezing weather.. and she started up on the first push of the button. If the language is still in the manual, it is because the manual needs to be updated. The system in the car has definitely been updated.
03-14-2013, 06:20 PM
#12
Team Owner
The only time I shut down in reverse on my 09 is if I happen to be backing up when I decide to shut down. I don't deliberately put my car in reverse to shut the car down, and I have never run down the battery by not doing so.
03-14-2013, 06:20 PM
#13
Team Owner
Here's the link from 2010/11 direct from BG plant.
http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/home.htm
Go to car info, instructions, then to vehicle approach and about 1 or 2 mitues in they will stress more then once about shutting down in reverse and if you don't there is still current until you properly put it into reverse...see for yourself.....
http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/home.htm
Go to car info, instructions, then to vehicle approach and about 1 or 2 mitues in they will stress more then once about shutting down in reverse and if you don't there is still current until you properly put it into reverse...see for yourself.....
Those are the original C6 instructions, made in 2004, applicable ONLY to the 2005 cars. It's unfortunate GM couldn't invest in an update but.......well you know.
03-14-2013, 06:33 PM
#14
Race Director
With all the attentive listening did you notice that it implies your '13 Corvette has a 6 liter, 400 HP engine?
Those are the original C6 instructions, made in 2004, applicable ONLY to the 2005 cars. It's unfortunate GM couldn't invest in an update but.......well you know.
Those are the original C6 instructions, made in 2004, applicable ONLY to the 2005 cars. It's unfortunate GM couldn't invest in an update but.......well you know.
Jimmy
Last edited by jimmyb; 03-14-2013 at 09:56 PM.
03-14-2013, 07:01 PM
#16
Race Director
03-14-2013, 07:12 PM
#17
Team Owner
Hate to tell you but your wrong. I have a '13 and manual says shutdown in reverse. All of the dead battery syndromes are still there if you don't put it in reverse for shutoff. Even the dealer and Vette specialist when I picked up the car last month harped on me about this....
03-14-2013, 08:05 PM
#18
03-14-2013, 08:10 PM
#19
Team Owner
I always depress the clutch in my '03, I hate the chatter when it's in neutral when it's shut down, they should just do it that way (clutch in). 
03-14-2013, 08:16 PM
#20
Former Vendor