Fangs defined.....re: pedestrian safety
#1
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Fangs defined.....re: pedestrian safety
I have seen in different threads people asking how the "fangs" help pedestrian safety. I am not 100% sure, but I think I understand the answer. If someone knows for sure, here is the place to put it to bed.
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
#3
I have seen in different threads people asking how the "fangs" help pedestrian safety. I am not 100% sure, but I think I understand the answer. If someone knows for sure, here is the place to put it to bed.
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
#4
Drifting
I think GM should put REAL fangs on the Corvette. You know, scary white Dracula fangs which terrify pedestrians and force them to pay attention. There is a nationwide problem with people using their mobile phones while crossing streets. NYC passed a law a couple of years ago, banning such behavior.
The logic is that when you collide with a pedestrian (so busy yapping away or texting on their cell phones) the fangs will reduce the chances of their heads hitting the hood...a higher cause of death than broken legs.
I rather like the fangs on the C7, but it's looking a little too trendy now that everyone else is doing it. For example, Google images of the newest BMW's.
The logic is that when you collide with a pedestrian (so busy yapping away or texting on their cell phones) the fangs will reduce the chances of their heads hitting the hood...a higher cause of death than broken legs.
I rather like the fangs on the C7, but it's looking a little too trendy now that everyone else is doing it. For example, Google images of the newest BMW's.
#5
Race Director
I think the "fangs' look great. My only concern would be banging them into concrete blocks in various parking lots. I would have to get a proximity sensor installed for my daily driving otherwise at one time or another I'd be banging those things into the little concrete barriers in parking lots ...
I know I am not alone in this action from time to time.
With the front plate I have hanging off the lower portion of the c6 usually my plate takes a slight hit from time to time...but never do I hit the front lower edge of the car.
JMO
I know I am not alone in this action from time to time.
With the front plate I have hanging off the lower portion of the c6 usually my plate takes a slight hit from time to time...but never do I hit the front lower edge of the car.
JMO
#6
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Jim,
since BlueOx doesn't seem to want to share his knowledge with you , here is some reading material for you on the ECE.
http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29...grspinf45.html
http://www.pedestrians-int.org/main.php?id=18
since BlueOx doesn't seem to want to share his knowledge with you , here is some reading material for you on the ECE.
http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29...grspinf45.html
http://www.pedestrians-int.org/main.php?id=18
Last edited by JoesC5; 02-18-2013 at 10:34 PM.
#7
Maybe the fangs work like little coat hooks. They hook the pedestrian by the collar just before they get pulled under the car..
#8
Jo's continuing feeble attempt to find a legal explanation of why the C6 designers did away with the pop up headlights because of EURO pedestrian laws instead of the excessive weight, poor reliablity, poor lighting, etc., is just sad.
Maybe after all these years his extensive research into documentation may actually be meaningful to a topic at hand.
Maybe after all these years his extensive research into documentation may actually be meaningful to a topic at hand.
#9
Melting Slicks
The document below gets into some of the testing info regarding Pedestrian Injury Mitigation which is what is driving these new protrusions at the base of the front facia.
If you look at the link below, Lee 6 which should be page 6 has a diagram and in particular item C in figure 6 is where that comes into play.
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/esv.../05-0105-O.pdf
This document gets into some of the science behind it leading up to the latest mandates. It shows some of the progression up until 2010. Shows crash dummy testing as well.
http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstr...BF7?sequence=1
If you look at the link below, Lee 6 which should be page 6 has a diagram and in particular item C in figure 6 is where that comes into play.
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/esv.../05-0105-O.pdf
This document gets into some of the science behind it leading up to the latest mandates. It shows some of the progression up until 2010. Shows crash dummy testing as well.
http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstr...BF7?sequence=1
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for what they are intended to do (if they are for that purpose), I think they look pretty good. and then I read those papers/studies above fr. slief. I'm surprised they weren't mandated to be "giant pillows."
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
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for what they are intended to do (if they are for that purpose), I think they look pretty good. and then I read those papers/studies above fr. slief. I'm surprised they weren't mandated to be "giant pillows."
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
#13
Drifting
for what they are intended to do (if they are for that purpose), I think they look pretty good. and then I read those papers/studies above fr. slief. I'm surprised they weren't mandated to be "giant pillows."
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
I don't know much about the fangs but I do hope they do whatever is the intended function so that "giant pillows" aren't required years from now.
#15
Melting Slicks
Also on 2014 Audi's:
https://www.google.com/search?q=2014...w=1024&bih=672
2014 BMW:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.kJMf0epio9o
2014 Hondas:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.s5Ig7zFHzK0
2014 Mercedes. Not as obvious but still there:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.tTGMF3pLH04
2014 Lamborghini
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...w=1024&bih=672
2014 Jaguar:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...mg.YtMwLHhPGzk
Need I say more?? You will find it in some manifestation on most 2014 vehicles.
Last edited by slief; 02-18-2013 at 11:38 PM.
#16
Burning Brakes
The fangs are on other cars like the Aventador, Impala, and a few others. Euro pedestrian laws are the reason Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Mini, have higher hood lines. I think something about being able to knock a pedestrian out of the way if there is impact?
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I have seen in different threads people asking how the "fangs" help pedestrian safety. I am not 100% sure, but I think I understand the answer. If someone knows for sure, here is the place to put it to bed.
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
I think what people are missing is that the fangs are not designed for safety, they are the RESULT of safety. If you want a car that has a front "splitter", it probably cannot protrude beyond the front of the car. So what they are doing is stopping the splitter on both sides before it reaches the center - the result just looks like fangs.
I think if you look at the front from the side, you would see that by doing this, the splitter does not protrude past the front of the nose of the blunt bumper.
This is just my theory. There is one person on this forum who I'm betting either knows, or can find out very quickly if I'm right. I await your thoughts!
#18
Melting Slicks
I would suggest you read my above 2 posts and do some more reading. You are sadly mistaken in your assumption. You will see variations of the Fangs all almost ALL 2014 cars! This is fact and it there is nothing to doubt or theorize upon.