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Old 02-09-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy D


I would hope that GM has low balled the numbers so that we can all be pleasantly surprised when the offical numbers come out
That would be nice!
Old 02-09-2013, 05:46 PM
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to Joesc5 Not true. I said this,

'Originally Posted by 98CFive
Years ago, advertised HP (for detroit)was flywheel HP. They used an engine dyno to measure it. Today they use the chassis dyno which measures HP at the rear or front wheels, in a running car spinning the dyno with the power wheels.'
And for BHP that is correct. Advertised HP is meaningless.

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Old 02-10-2013, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CFive
to Joesc5 Not true. I said this,

'Originally Posted by 98CFive
....Today they use the chassis dyno which measures HP at the rear or front wheels, in a running car spinning the dyno with the power wheels.'
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No they dont.
Old 02-10-2013, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by slief

Originally Posted by texvette2
The horsepower race is on its way to the 60's. Many of the people are incapable of
driving a 200 hp v6 safely. You drop them behind the wheel of a flimsy C7 and
ditches, T-poles, curbs, etc will flooding the insurance desks. Its just a matter of
time till the rates will kill these cars again. Just because the checkbook allows
the purchase does not mean the brain matches.
Flimsy C7?? Wow, that certainly doesn't say much about the outgoing C6 since the C7 is substantially stiffer. I guess we know how you really feel though.
Too funny!

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Old 02-10-2013, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CFive
to Joesc5 Not true. I said this,

'Originally Posted by 98CFive
Years ago, advertised HP (for detroit)was flywheel HP. They used an engine dyno to measure it. Today they use the chassis dyno which measures HP at the rear or front wheels, in a running car spinning the dyno with the power wheels.'
And for BHP that is correct. Advertised HP is meaningless.
JoesC5 is right. It isn't measured at the wheels. Go look at SAE Document J2723 for the procedure to certify an engine to SAE J1349, which is the specification GM uses to certify their engine output.

Michael
Old 02-10-2013, 01:57 AM
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I'm going to guess the RWHP is going to land in the 380-390 area. I can't help but feel some of the things they are going to need to do to offset the added noise and vibration from the AFM is going to absorb a few ponies. So the mentioned 12/15% parasitic loss might end up being 15/18%. If it comes in at 450, we're looking at 383/369. But given what has been published about the LT1, I would venture that a 460-470 rating is very feasible and likely. But when they quote the HP estimate, I believe that they are speaking strictly of the engine with no regard as to which vehicle is installed. But given the strength of the internals, and the flexibility of the direct injection, I imagine they could tune quite a bit more into if they choose, or less.
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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
But when they quote the HP estimate, I believe that they are speaking strictly of the engine with no regard as to which vehicle is installed.
No, actually the horsepower rating has to be "as installed" with all accessories, induction, and exhaust to meet the SAE J1349 test spec.

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