Did anyone notice this about the c7 or am I blind?
02-06-2013, 04:34 PM
#41
Team Owner
Knowledge is awesome and it appears many on this forum are lacking in it. Old and young.
02-06-2013, 04:39 PM
#42
02-06-2013, 04:46 PM
#43
Pro
I'd prefer a manual ebrake myself.
Electrical malfunctions are more likely to happen than a cable not working properly.
EDIT: Just read the other thread..so deleted some of my comments.
Electrical malfunctions are more likely to happen than a cable not working properly.
EDIT: Just read the other thread..so deleted some of my comments.
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02-06-2013, 04:48 PM
#44
Burning Brakes
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No, not saying they can't ride in front. Just saying they're required to be in a booster seat. For your state, the law is as follows:
Missouri's Child Restraint Law
(RSMo 307.182)
• Children less than 4 years old or less than 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat.
• Children ages 4 through 7 who weigh at least 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat or booster seat unless they are 80 pounds or 4'9" tall.
• Children 8 and over or weighing at least 80 pounds or at least 4’9” tall are required to be secured by a safety belt or buckled into an appropriate booster seat.
Back on topic, I hope 81pilot is correct. The redundancies built into modern braking systems make using a handbrake for an "emergency" obsolete. It is now more correctly called a "parking" brake.
Missouri's Child Restraint Law
(RSMo 307.182)
• Children less than 4 years old or less than 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat.
• Children ages 4 through 7 who weigh at least 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat or booster seat unless they are 80 pounds or 4'9" tall.
• Children 8 and over or weighing at least 80 pounds or at least 4’9” tall are required to be secured by a safety belt or buckled into an appropriate booster seat.
Back on topic, I hope 81pilot is correct. The redundancies built into modern braking systems make using a handbrake for an "emergency" obsolete. It is now more correctly called a "parking" brake.
02-06-2013, 04:55 PM
#45
Team Owner
No, not saying they can't ride in front. Just saying they're required to be in a booster seat. For your state, the law is as follows:
Missouri's Child Restraint Law
(RSMo 307.182)
• Children less than 4 years old or less than 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat.
• Children ages 4 through 7 who weigh at least 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat or booster seat unless they are 80 pounds or 4'9" tall.
• Children 8 and over or weighing at least 80 pounds or at least 4’9” tall are required to be secured by a safety belt or buckled into an appropriate booster seat.
Back on topic, I hope 81pilot is correct. The redundancies built into modern braking systems make using a handbrake for an "emergency" obsolete. It is now more correctly called a "parking" brake.
Missouri's Child Restraint Law
(RSMo 307.182)
• Children less than 4 years old or less than 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat.
• Children ages 4 through 7 who weigh at least 40 pounds must be in an appropriate child safety seat or booster seat unless they are 80 pounds or 4'9" tall.
• Children 8 and over or weighing at least 80 pounds or at least 4’9” tall are required to be secured by a safety belt or buckled into an appropriate booster seat.
Back on topic, I hope 81pilot is correct. The redundancies built into modern braking systems make using a handbrake for an "emergency" obsolete. It is now more correctly called a "parking" brake.
The time I had a brake failure on my 69 Vette was when the clevis pin in the brake pedal fell out. The brake pedal was no longer connected to the master cylinder. There is no redundancy for that malfunction.
Last edited by JoesC5; 02-06-2013 at 05:02 PM.
02-06-2013, 05:03 PM
#47
02-06-2013, 05:08 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
I'd prefer a manual ebrake myself.
Electrical malfunctions are more likely to happen than a cable not working properly.
Plus.. at speed...you can lightly engage the manual brake where you don't send passengers through the windshield or you can yank it up for those "O sh." times.
And for it to "do nothing" at speed? I just don't get that. I hope folks are wrong on that one.
Electrical malfunctions are more likely to happen than a cable not working properly.
Plus.. at speed...you can lightly engage the manual brake where you don't send passengers through the windshield or you can yank it up for those "O sh." times.
And for it to "do nothing" at speed? I just don't get that. I hope folks are wrong on that one.
In all seriousness, the only people who should be worried about not having a manual brake would be drifters and people who think its cool to use their ebrake to do stupid things! If you are a drifter who uses the ebrake, then you might consider a set of steering brakes or a mod to add a manual brake or a different car. Other than that, manual brakes are becoming a thing of the past. They are being eliminated on one car after another. Also, the manual parking brake on the C6 certainly isn't all the great to begin with and if you don't wrench it up all the way, the car will roll on even a slight incline. An automatic hydraulic parking brake will certainly serve its purpose when used for parking better than the manual one in a C6.
For those that are worrying about using the ebrake in the event of an "emergency", please enlighten me on when the last reported complete brake failure was on a Corvette? I've been on this forum for a long time and I can't remember a single one.
As for doing nothing at speed, I am sure it will in fact serve its purpose as an emergency brake but it might be a little more complex than just pulling the button up at speed. Perhaps it will only work if accompanied by a press of the brake pedal.
And for the poster who brought up the 4 year old, what happens if he pulls on the manual brake lever when you are looking? I know that's a stretch but he could just as easily push the unlock button and then hit the door open button too. Just saying.. I think some people make a mountain out of mole hill.
I need to get in the cheese business! With all the whining that goes on here, I could making a fortune selling cheese!
Last edited by slief; 02-06-2013 at 05:10 PM.
02-06-2013, 05:09 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
From my experience with E-Brake buttons, on a few personally owned vehicles from different manufactures, it can't be engaged while the car is in gear or rolling. Also once you put the car in gear it disengages.
02-06-2013, 05:09 PM
#50
Burning Brakes
In a head-on crash the most common and deadly type of collision, a child in the front seat can be thrown into your car's dashboard or through the windshield.
Use some common sense, for your grandchilds sake and don't put them in that seat.
02-06-2013, 06:21 PM
#51
Le Mans Master
Your first post:
My reply:
Your response:
You can see how I was confused by your response. Your Post #37 statement referencing a child seat came after the other exchange.
Is there a law against 4 year old kids in a Corvette(in the passenger seat) if they are buckled in? Isn't the air bag automatically turned off if a light weight kid is in the passenger seat?
Kid sitting in the passenger seat can rest his left arm on the center console, thus can reach the P-Brake button located on the center console.
Kid sitting in the passenger seat can rest his left arm on the center console, thus can reach the P-Brake button located on the center console.
02-06-2013, 06:36 PM
#52
you guys are too much,the car is awesome,taillights and all.stop hating and start wishing you had one.and as far as the parking brake.........ive had 8 corvettes from c3 to c6 and the parking brake sucked on all of them,they wouldnt stop the car at 10 mph nevermind 75
02-06-2013, 08:15 PM
#56
Melting Slicks
02-06-2013, 08:24 PM
#58
Team Owner
02-06-2013, 08:53 PM
#60
Drifting
This thread should've been two posts max. In the cars that I've seen with electronic they only work once the car stops so alot of you are arguing over nothing. You won't be able to actuate this thing while driving. Another c7 pissing match I guess.