C7 market appeal
01-31-2013, 06:22 PM
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01-31-2013, 07:17 PM
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01-31-2013, 07:26 PM
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I think it will open up a new market to buyers of european and high end japanese sports cars. With the interior upgrades, there isn't anything those guys can rag on the corvette about anymore. It's a better all around performer with an interior on par with that market.
Who on God's green earth would buy a $65k audi tt over a 59k vette that beats it in every aspect. All I have to say is these other car manufacturers had better get their s#$% together if they want to sell anything that competes with the corvette, because their pricing is way too high for what they are offering in comparison to the vette.
Who on God's green earth would buy a $65k audi tt over a 59k vette that beats it in every aspect. All I have to say is these other car manufacturers had better get their s#$% together if they want to sell anything that competes with the corvette, because their pricing is way too high for what they are offering in comparison to the vette.
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01-31-2013, 07:27 PM
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Beyond that, give GM some credit for its past...I am sure we will find at least a few plastic pieces and/or ***** or interior components that begin to buzz from vibration after a year of driving....
01-31-2013, 08:05 PM
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Your taxes and insurance are based on how physically large your vehicle is and what it's engine displacement is, so a Mustang or Camaro (which are physically large and have comparatively-HUGE displacement engines) are extremely expensive to own, so you must be on baller status to drive one.
01-31-2013, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by I Bin Therbefor
Will the C7 be able to hold on to the traditional buyer while appealing to the new, non-traditional, buyer?
Opinions please.
Will the C7 be able to hold on to the traditional buyer while appealing to the new, non-traditional, buyer?
Opinions please.
01-31-2013, 09:31 PM
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I have owned and driven Corvettes since I was 17 and have owned all 6 generations, the new C7 aesthetics to me are a huge disappointment. Looks like an edgier appearing C6 makeover with some engineering refinements but nothing earth shaking like I thought it would be. I think I will just keep my C6 convert. I have owned first year vettes from 4 of the 6 generations so usually am ready to jump when they introduce one but not inspired to do it this time from what I have seen.
From what the head corvette engineer said in the C&D interview video they had to stop the C7 design process twice because of the financial problems and were not able to do the mid engine design that they originally were shooting for in the new generation.
I really like the new C7, but if they came out with a V8 small block mid-engined Corvette, I would go crazy!
That was Duntov's dream, and it's my dream, too. Pontiac built a couple V8 Fiero mock-ups, but I don't recall if they ever got fully built to where they were driven.Michael
01-31-2013, 09:45 PM
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This is interesting. RJ is a long time traditional Vette buyer who thinks the C7 did not go far enough.
I really like the new C7, but if they came out with a V8 small block mid-engined Corvette, I would go crazy! That was Duntov's dream, and it's my dream, too. Pontiac built a couple V8 Fiero mock-ups, but I don't recall if they ever got fully built to where they were driven.
Michael
I really like the new C7, but if they came out with a V8 small block mid-engined Corvette, I would go crazy!
That was Duntov's dream, and it's my dream, too. Pontiac built a couple V8 Fiero mock-ups, but I don't recall if they ever got fully built to where they were driven.Michael
(and for those who automatically jump to 'there will never be a mid-engine corvette'...do some DD
)
01-31-2013, 09:49 PM
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I have owned Corvettes for more years hen I want to say. I love he new car. It brings a lot of new technology. I do not mean electric tech but mechanical technology including a much stiffer and lighter frame. As far as other technology if you read up on the new positract system that alone makes huge leap in traction and handling...viva change!
And when are the getting rid of the transverse leaf springs?
01-31-2013, 09:50 PM
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I predict: 1. Car guys will like it. 2. Most Corvette guys will like it.
01-31-2013, 09:51 PM
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01-31-2013, 09:52 PM
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01-31-2013, 09:55 PM
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I don't think the younger crowd can afford to buy a two seater fun car in this economy and it will be years before it recovers enough they can.
I have no desire to buy a C7 it does not appeal to me.
Glen
I have no desire to buy a C7 it does not appeal to me.
Glen
01-31-2013, 10:05 PM
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The all-new designed from the ground-up Viper recently went head-to-head against the current ZR1 at Laguna Seca. Both driven by a guy who knows what he's doing. The latter, if you hear it told around here is not just dated, but. . . ancient. The former, an all-new design.
Keep in mind both these cars have nearly identical hp, torque, weight and thus hp/lb ratios. About as even as you get on paper.
As we all know, the ZR whipped the all-new Viper by 2 seconds and in the process set a new track record, eclipsing the previous mark set by an ACR Viper. Oh, and the long list of cars down on the list that hadn't come close to that on that track includes the Ferrari 458 and the Lambo Aventador.
Maybe it's just me, but the transverse composite leaf spring set up in the Corvette seems to work ok.
01-31-2013, 10:40 PM
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"Traditional buyers" are lashing out right now because the C7 is a departure from what they've known for years. It's hard for them to accept the Corvette's new direction.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some of their comments just stem from the fact that they see something they aren't used to. If some of the "traditional buyers" never want to buy another Corvette again because they don't like the direction it is headed in, they can miss out on the best pound for pound sports car in the world.
They can go with the Mustang, but it ain't a Corvette. They can go with a Porsche, but it ain't a Corvette. Or, they can go up to 100K or more but they won't do that because they already complain about the price being too high at 55K. They'll be right back in a Corvette because there's no substitute at that price. They might even decide just to keep their current Corvette but when they decide to buy new again, they really won't have a choice.
If they want to go the rest of their life without another Corvette, that will be their decision, but I doubt it. Many of them will soften up over time. Traditional buyers love Corvettes and that's where they want to be. It's only a matter of time.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some of their comments just stem from the fact that they see something they aren't used to. If some of the "traditional buyers" never want to buy another Corvette again because they don't like the direction it is headed in, they can miss out on the best pound for pound sports car in the world.
They can go with the Mustang, but it ain't a Corvette. They can go with a Porsche, but it ain't a Corvette. Or, they can go up to 100K or more but they won't do that because they already complain about the price being too high at 55K. They'll be right back in a Corvette because there's no substitute at that price. They might even decide just to keep their current Corvette but when they decide to buy new again, they really won't have a choice.
If they want to go the rest of their life without another Corvette, that will be their decision, but I doubt it. Many of them will soften up over time. Traditional buyers love Corvettes and that's where they want to be. It's only a matter of time.
01-31-2013, 11:36 PM
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This is my first post here. While not young, I don't consider myself old (34) and I think I fit the demographic gm is looking for in the C7. I have experience with gm mostly in their trucks, but my buddy is a hardcore gm guy with a new Zl1 & C6Z. I never really got into the vette scene as my weekend/track cars have always been German. I sold my last car in 2010, to focus on starting a family and planned to get back into another one sometime next year. I was looking at used Porsche gt3's, Audi V10 R8's & mb C63 amg's.
I watched the unveiling of the C7 online & it really struck a chord with me. With a C7 in Lt3 trim with the Z51 package I can see myself paying in the 65k area which I'm fine with. I'm still saving a ton of $ vs my other choices. Plenty leftover for aftermarket goodies. No car inspires me like the C7. I think for the tech, performance and looks its hard to beat. Even besting cars costing 20-30k more. I will def be getting one once the dealer preorders are filled & the hype dies down a bit. I also want to wait a little to see the other performance variants that may come out before I fully commit to the Z51 as I usually keep my cars long term.
I watched the unveiling of the C7 online & it really struck a chord with me. With a C7 in Lt3 trim with the Z51 package I can see myself paying in the 65k area which I'm fine with. I'm still saving a ton of $ vs my other choices. Plenty leftover for aftermarket goodies. No car inspires me like the C7. I think for the tech, performance and looks its hard to beat. Even besting cars costing 20-30k more. I will def be getting one once the dealer preorders are filled & the hype dies down a bit. I also want to wait a little to see the other performance variants that may come out before I fully commit to the Z51 as I usually keep my cars long term.
02-01-2013, 10:24 PM
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The all-new designed from the ground-up Viper recently went head-to-head against the current ZR1 at Laguna Seca. Both driven by a guy who knows what he's doing. The latter, if you hear it told around here is not just dated, but. . . ancient. The former, an all-new design.
Keep in mind both these cars have nearly identical hp, torque, weight and thus hp/lb ratios. About as even as you get on paper.
As we all know, the ZR whipped the all-new Viper by 2 seconds and in the process set a new track record, eclipsing the previous mark set by an ACR Viper. Oh, and the long list of cars down on the list that hadn't come close to that on that track includes the Ferrari 458 and the Lambo Aventador.
Maybe it's just me, but the transverse composite leaf spring set up in the Corvette seems to work ok.
02-01-2013, 10:27 PM
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"Traditional buyers" are lashing out right now because the C7 is a departure from what they've known for years. It's hard for them to accept the Corvette's new direction.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some of their comments just stem from the fact that they see something they aren't used to. If some of the "traditional buyers" never want to buy another Corvette again because they don't like the direction it is headed in, they can miss out on the best pound for pound sports car in the world.
They can go with the Mustang, but it ain't a Corvette. They can go with a Porsche, but it ain't a Corvette. Or, they can go up to 100K or more but they won't do that because they already complain about the price being too high at 55K. They'll be right back in a Corvette because there's no substitute at that price. They might even decide just to keep their current Corvette but when they decide to buy new again, they really won't have a choice.
If they want to go the rest of their life without another Corvette, that will be their decision, but I doubt it. Many of them will soften up over time. Traditional buyers love Corvettes and that's where they want to be. It's only a matter of time.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some of their comments just stem from the fact that they see something they aren't used to. If some of the "traditional buyers" never want to buy another Corvette again because they don't like the direction it is headed in, they can miss out on the best pound for pound sports car in the world.
They can go with the Mustang, but it ain't a Corvette. They can go with a Porsche, but it ain't a Corvette. Or, they can go up to 100K or more but they won't do that because they already complain about the price being too high at 55K. They'll be right back in a Corvette because there's no substitute at that price. They might even decide just to keep their current Corvette but when they decide to buy new again, they really won't have a choice.
If they want to go the rest of their life without another Corvette, that will be their decision, but I doubt it. Many of them will soften up over time. Traditional buyers love Corvettes and that's where they want to be. It's only a matter of time.
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