Can Someone making 60k a yr afford the base c7?
#121
By July 2005 the C6 had already been out for 12 months. You may have gotten a $9k discount, but someone else who bought the exact same car as you a month later, as a 2006 may have only received a $5000 discount, but as of right now, all things being equal, and if they followed the same depretiation path, his car is worth a few thousand more than yours since his is a 2006 and yours is a 2005. The difference in the value of the cars right now negates a good portion of the additional dicount you received when you purchased the 2005 car at the very end of the model year run.
Last edited by RedC7AZ; 01-31-2013 at 12:19 AM.
#122
What if you and the girlfriend break up ?
Get a vehicle that you own... That means pay cash for .. Not a lease or a payment or a car payment that will haunt you later.
Save some cash
Invest in something that dosent depreciate.
There are homes that may not appreciate...but a renter will add to your funds..
Think long term... Life is long and getting harder financially by the minute.
Is you employment stable?
Will your salary continue to increase significantly In the future ?
All this is only my opinion ... I am not $$$$ but i do not have debt.
Its alot easier to live that way.... Less stress Corvette or no corvette.
Get a vehicle that you own... That means pay cash for .. Not a lease or a payment or a car payment that will haunt you later.
Save some cash
Invest in something that dosent depreciate.
There are homes that may not appreciate...but a renter will add to your funds..
Think long term... Life is long and getting harder financially by the minute.
Is you employment stable?
Will your salary continue to increase significantly In the future ?
All this is only my opinion ... I am not $$$$ but i do not have debt.
Its alot easier to live that way.... Less stress Corvette or no corvette.
#123
This save till you can pay cash is such ********. A nice down payment and a good job with a career on the rise is sufficient.
#125
go for it. I think but can't remember but my salary during 2001 was similar. I was 34 I think and job secure. I put maybe 10 percent down on a loaded C5 thru credit union.
Worked out fine. I didn't go broke. Will never forget my first Vette. Brand new. Later bought a home blah blah..
Fast forward still with same company as my first C5 wow 20 years this Dec. Salary much higher now. Umm still won't pay cash for a C7. I have other hobbies and a life.
No shame in financing..
Rick
Worked out fine. I didn't go broke. Will never forget my first Vette. Brand new. Later bought a home blah blah..
Fast forward still with same company as my first C5 wow 20 years this Dec. Salary much higher now. Umm still won't pay cash for a C7. I have other hobbies and a life.
No shame in financing..
Rick
#126
Le Mans Master
Whatever I'd like to save enough cash to buy a home in Russian Hill San Francisco. Let me start saving now. By the time I retire maybe I can live there.
This save till you can pay cash is such ********. A nice down payment and a good job with a career on the rise is sufficient.
This save till you can pay cash is such ********. A nice down payment and a good job with a career on the rise is sufficient.
I agree...screw using ur own money when you can borrow it at 2.9%! That what I can get it for.
#128
Racer
- What if you and the girlfriend break up ?
- Get a vehicle that you own... That means pay cash for .. Not a lease or a payment or a car payment that will haunt you later.
- Save some cash
- Invest in something that dosent depreciate.
- There are homes that may not appreciate...but a renter will add to your funds..
- Think long term... Life is long and getting harder financially by the minute.
- Is you employment stable?
- Will your salary continue to increase significantly In the future ?
- All this is only my opinion ... I am not $$$$ but i do not have debt.
- Its alot easier to live that way.... Less stress Corvette or no corvette.
- Get a vehicle that you own... That means pay cash for .. Not a lease or a payment or a car payment that will haunt you later.
- Save some cash
- Invest in something that dosent depreciate.
- There are homes that may not appreciate...but a renter will add to your funds..
- Think long term... Life is long and getting harder financially by the minute.
- Is you employment stable?
- Will your salary continue to increase significantly In the future ?
- All this is only my opinion ... I am not $$$$ but i do not have debt.
- Its alot easier to live that way.... Less stress Corvette or no corvette.
I totally agree with the plan to buy a well cared-for previously owned C6. Drive it for a few years and see how things go for you financially.
Here's another thing - does your fiance' know you want to do this? It's the mature and respectful thing to make sure she knows about it. How do you know she isn't planning some major purchase in a couple of years? Be sure to discuss financial matters openly and honestly.
Failure to think this through carefully WITH her will lead to a
Doug
#130
Melting Slicks
From a financial standpoint, it would be very foolish to finance a car that costs 1x your annual salary. Ideally, you should be spending no more than 25% of your annual gross pay on a vehicle and concentrating on saving the rest for now, so you can build your net worth. If you do go higher than that, you need to ask yourself if you'd be willing to put 20% down cash. If the anser is no, then you should not be buying it. Value-wise, new cars are a fool's errand. Not counting taxes, fees, insurance, and interest on borrowed money, the car will be worth 15% less than it was 1 hour ago when you signed the papers, the instant you drive it off the lot. Ask yourself: can I afford to give away $10,000 cash? Because this is in effect what you are doing. Suggest you stick with used ones for now.
I financed cars for many years when I was younger, and then I got some common sense and stopped that at about 30. My worst deal was a 86 Mazda Turbo II that I financed over 72 months at 12%. I was so jazzed when I picked up my new car that I could barely contain myself. 5 years in, 2 refis later because the payments were basically too high, I swore I'd never do a deal like that ever again. I stuck to used cars so I could save money for my family, and my rule was that if I couldn't pay cash, I couldn't afford it. I'm 49 now and have liquid assets in the 7 figures, mostly because I invested and did not wast money on stuff that loses value. It is a nice feeling to know I can walk into any car dealer tomorrow and just write a check for anything I want, even if I don't do that.
I financed cars for many years when I was younger, and then I got some common sense and stopped that at about 30. My worst deal was a 86 Mazda Turbo II that I financed over 72 months at 12%. I was so jazzed when I picked up my new car that I could barely contain myself. 5 years in, 2 refis later because the payments were basically too high, I swore I'd never do a deal like that ever again. I stuck to used cars so I could save money for my family, and my rule was that if I couldn't pay cash, I couldn't afford it. I'm 49 now and have liquid assets in the 7 figures, mostly because I invested and did not wast money on stuff that loses value. It is a nice feeling to know I can walk into any car dealer tomorrow and just write a check for anything I want, even if I don't do that.
I would love a C7 but would not buy one for years to come. Just can't justify tying up that kind of money in a car. The opportunity costs are so great. $500/month contributed every month and compounded at a conservative long term average of say 6% interest (after inflation) is a healthy amount in 10 years and a fortune in 20 years.
I never really liked the C5's but early C6's are falling in price to a point where I *may* just splurge on one in a year or so. That is definitely as new as I will ever go on a Corvette though - maybe 7 or 8 years old at the MOST. It's not the money it's the principal and the way I view money. Just can't bring myself to loose that much on what amounts to a fairly purchase.
Can you pay for it? Probably.
Can you afford it - well......
Of course, it's no one's place to tell you what to do with his money. You earn it, you spend it how you see fit.
Last edited by VtVette; 01-31-2013 at 03:38 AM.
#131
Drifting
The best way for a guy that makes 60K a year to make sure he never gets ahead in life is to buy a new 60k car, a massively depreciating asset that is equal to a full years salary.
Let's assume a buyer gets a C7, pays 60k for it and three years later it drops 25k on value. 25k divided by 36 monthly payment equals a loss of $694 a month. When a person makes 60k a year before taxes are taken out and makes owning a car that loses him $694 a month in depreciation, it is not a wise choice. Consider the fact he is buying it because he must have the newest toy, it means he will likely think he must have some other new car when it comes out. This is an endless situation that puts him in a poor financial position to own little else but a car at that income level the rest of his life.
Just because a person that makes 60k a year can buy a 60k, it doesn't mean it is a smart thing to do. Be careful for what you want, you might just get it!
The wise choice at this income level is to buy used, a depreciated C6 with low miles. Then, in 3 to 5 years, buy a C7 used and so on. If the buyer earned 150k or more, taking this type of loss makes it within his budget.
Of course it's a free country, he can do whatever he wants. All I know is I am retiring this month at the age of 55 and I am able to do so because I didn't make choices like buying a new car equal to a year of my salary to later lose 50% of it's value a few years later. Trust me, the appeal for me at my age of owning a car with a new taillight or 25 more HP is less appealing to me than the fact I have the option of choosing if I want to work or not the final chapter of my life. Financial planning is about life choices. Is owning a new C7 really worth so much to a person that they forego so many other things in their life a few years later?
Last edited by zland; 01-31-2013 at 03:39 AM.
#133
I'm in a very similar situation as yourself but at 37 years old. We own several rental properties and our primary residence. One small mortgage at 3.25% which will be paid off in a few years. Cash in the bank at 6 figures, retirement funds stocked and absolutely no other debt whatsoever.
#134
Drifting
It depends on where you live, how much you borrow, the interest rate and many other things.
However, I think the answer is no. Many of us make double that amount and won't be buying a C7 until the numbers are right.
However, I think the answer is no. Many of us make double that amount and won't be buying a C7 until the numbers are right.
#135
Race Director
I would suggest you are not making enough money to buy a c7. My suggestion is to buy a beautiful low mileage c6 coupe and enjoy that car.
The traditional new car purchase is 26 weeks of income...so if your making 60 grand...your car expense should be around 30 grand...
either buy a low mileage c6 grand sport, coupe, convertible or a c6 z06 and enjoy that...
Nothing worse than tying your self up tight with car payment bulls it...
The c7 is going to be insanely awesome but for a guy making 60 grand a year...? with very little savings? OP who still is just contemplating paying off his credit card just before buying a new car...
I say hold off buying a 60 grand car....pay off the credit card bill completely every month......and buy a nice sports car you can afford...whether it be the very nice camaro you already own...or a c6....
JMO and good luck
The traditional new car purchase is 26 weeks of income...so if your making 60 grand...your car expense should be around 30 grand...
either buy a low mileage c6 grand sport, coupe, convertible or a c6 z06 and enjoy that...
Nothing worse than tying your self up tight with car payment bulls it...
The c7 is going to be insanely awesome but for a guy making 60 grand a year...? with very little savings? OP who still is just contemplating paying off his credit card just before buying a new car...
I say hold off buying a 60 grand car....pay off the credit card bill completely every month......and buy a nice sports car you can afford...whether it be the very nice camaro you already own...or a c6....
JMO and good luck
#138
I faced the same dilemma many years ago when I bought my first corvette. What I did was set aside the car payment every month for 6 months as IGI had actually bought it. I satisfied myself I could live with the payment level before committing and had an extra down payment.
Since the c7 isn't available yet, you could do this in the interim and validate your discipline and pain level.
Since the c7 isn't available yet, you could do this in the interim and validate your discipline and pain level.
#139
Drifting
Bought a Z06 brand new. It was great, god I lost a lot of money. At the end of a 5 yr. note, it was worth about half of what I paid. And this was a car in perfect condition.
Buy used, you can buy a 3 or 4 year old vette. and save a ton of money.... Besides most corvette guys never drive the things, they sit in the garage most of their life.
3 year old vette, that has 10 to 20 thousand miles. Is a very good buy, and pretty easy to find.
anyways, it will be months before those things are in the showroom. start saving now.
Buy used, you can buy a 3 or 4 year old vette. and save a ton of money.... Besides most corvette guys never drive the things, they sit in the garage most of their life.
3 year old vette, that has 10 to 20 thousand miles. Is a very good buy, and pretty easy to find.
anyways, it will be months before those things are in the showroom. start saving now.
Purchased a 4 year old 06/Z06 with 5k miles and a 3year warranty 2 years ago for $42K and from what I see for sale out there, my Z06 has held its value. Hint, buy a used Corvette in the dead of winter.