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Old 01-23-2013, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Slynky
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That's an OK way to break in a new engine? My car said to avoid driving the same speed too often through break-in. (I'm thinking about being on an interstate driving back home from the NCM)
You always have the option of varying your speed, even on the Interstate, but you might consider taking secondary roads. Lower speeds, slowing down for towns along the way and at the same time seeing some scenery you otherwise would miss.
Old 01-23-2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Slynky
Kind of a side note...

That's an OK way to break in a new engine? My car said to avoid driving the same speed too often through break-in. (I'm thinking about being on an interstate driving back home from the NCM)
Actually, my understanding is its not about the engine break in anymore. What with modern machining and rings, that is no longer a big issue.

Apparently, the issue now is the differential/ring gear. It needs to anneal from the heat of use and properly seat the pattern of engagement between the teeth on the ring and pinion gears. That is why the recommendation (at least on the C6s, obviously haven't seen the C7 owners manual yet.........) is to not exceed 55mph for the first 500 miles, and to vary the speed.

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Originally Posted by Slynky
I see. So whether or not a car is for stock or to fill an order, the dealership uses one of their allocations for any order.

Would I be wrong to assume the number of allocations a dealership gets for a Corvette goes up as does their sales of all Chevrolet vehicles?
Part 1 is correct. Part 2 has been sometimes correct in the past. Allocations are sometimes based partly on sales of other GM products that might be slow movers themselves. As stated several times by others, large volume dealers will almost always get more allocations. From one week to the next, if a dealer doesn't get an allocation, he can't order the car regardless of whether it is for a Sold Order customer or for dealer stock. A dealer stock order can become a Sold Order anytime in the process before the car arrives at the dealership.

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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
Actually, my understanding is its not about the engine break in anymore. What with modern machining and rings, that is no longer a big issue.

Apparently, the issue now is the differential/ring gear. It needs to anneal from the heat of use and properly seat the pattern of engagement between the teeth on the ring and pinion gears. That is why the recommendation (at least on the C6s, obviously haven't seen the C7 owners manual yet.........) is to not exceed 55mph for the first 500 miles, and to vary the speed.

Interesting. Didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by savewave
You always have the option of varying your speed, even on the Interstate, but you might consider taking secondary roads. Lower speeds, slowing down for towns along the way and at the same time seeing some scenery you otherwise would miss.
When I muse about being able to score a 'Vette, I think about NCM delivery. It's not a big drive for me (I've been there once).

Should the cogs of the universe align just so that I can manage one, I think--being a photographer--I'd set the nav to avoid interstates and take the back roads home and spend a couple of days on the road.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by GOLD72
Part 1 is correct. Part 2 has been sometimes correct in the past. Allocations are sometimes based partly on sales of other GM products that might be slow movers themselves. As stated several times by others, large volume dealers will almost always get more allocations. From one week to the next, if a dealer doesn't get an allocation, he can't order the car regardless of whether it is for a Sold Order customer or for dealer stock. A dealer stock order can become a Sold Order anytime in the process before the car arrives at the dealership.
Thanks. I have a better understanding now.
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Originally Posted by Slynky
Thanks. I have a better understanding now.
I seem to remember that the 2009 ZR1 introduction program included an allocation system that took other GM product sales into account. It resulted in rural town dealerships getting ZR1s that I believed at the time should never have gotten them solely based upon corvette sales only.
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I think customer sold orders should skip the allocation process and go straight to GM where you are put on a list. And they could tell you "you're #213 on the list and your car will be built around whatever date."
I know of a lot of people that cancelled their orders for ZL1's and got a different car b'c of the allocation crap. Me included. It is hurting sales, even if only a little bit.
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Originally Posted by Slynky
I see. So whether or not a car is for stock or to fill an order, the dealership uses one of their allocations for any order.

Would I be wrong to assume the number of allocations a dealership gets for a Corvette goes up as does their sales of all Chevrolet vehicles?
Not sure of how Corvettes are allocated today? Before 2008 I think allocation was based on actual Corvettes sold. I seem to remember dealers getting 1 additional Corvette allocation for every X amount of Corvettes sold the previous year. I think they got 1 Z06 for every 6 regular C6 sold, and a ZR1 for every # of Z06 or C6 sold, or something like that? I spoke to the owner of a dealer and he said basically GM changed the game in 2008-2009 just around or after the GM bankruptcy. Maybe it was part of the GM restructuring? I thought he said GM changed Corvette allocations based on total number of any Chevy sold. I thought he said any super high volume Chevy dealer, even those with very low Corvette sales, would have more Corvette allocation then a smaller volume dealer who sold huge numbers of Corvettes? So a large volume dealer who sold 50 Corvettes per year would get more Corvette allocation then a low volume dealer who sold 250 Corvettes per year. I think some smaller high volume Corvette specialty dealers felt betrayed by this?

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Originally Posted by adamgl
I think customer sold orders should skip the allocation process and go straight to GM where you are put on a list. And they could tell you "you're #213 on the list and your car will be built around whatever date."
I know of a lot of people that cancelled their orders for ZL1's and got a different car b'c of the allocation crap. Me included. It is hurting sales, even if only a little bit.
I am one of those that cancelled my ZL1 order after learning it didn't get picked up, that's how i got my vette and never looked back.

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Originally Posted by adamgl
I think customer sold orders should skip the allocation process and go straight to GM where you are put on a list. And they could tell you "you're #213 on the list and your car will be built around whatever date."
I know of a lot of people that cancelled their orders for ZL1's and got a different car b'c of the allocation crap. Me included. It is hurting sales, even if only a little bit.


Why should some dealers have 50 cars in stock and you want to order your car from a small town dealer who you have done business with overs the years.

In 1999 I wanted a Hardtop Corvette and my local dealer who I bought 5 new Corvettes from along with other new Chevys couldn't get an allocation for a hardtop. I could order a coupe or convertible but no hardtop. I had to go 30 miles away to order the car.

GM is in business to sell cars. A sold retail order should be pulled and built over cars for dealer inventory no matter where or the size of the dealer.
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GM has refined its intellectually bankrupt allocation process to the point where Corvettes are self allocating. Jacking dealers around for cars already sold to existing customers is just one more reason that GM has a hard time selling even a thousand cars a month. Their solution is to reduce production capacity.
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Originally Posted by Slynky
Kind of a side note...

That's an OK way to break in a new engine? My car said to avoid driving the same speed too often through break-in. (I'm thinking about being on an interstate driving back home from the NCM)
On each of our NCM deliveries, we've taken the back roads on our way home. We've found this a great way to break in our new Vettes. There are some nice back roads with great scenery through Kentucky and Tennessee. Also, when on interstates for any length of time vary the car's speed by about 10 mph ever so often.



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