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Old 01-18-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbyosto
If you need the e-brake to take off from an incline, you shouldn't be driving stick.
Old 01-18-2013, 01:01 PM
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The problem with this electronic brake is not that it's electronic...it's that it restrains the applications of the e-brake.

A proper e-brake should have:
- a continuous application, from 0 pressure to locking the wheels
- proper ergonomics, easy to grab without looking, and easy to finesse the continuous levels of pressure
- 100% separate system in case the mainlines fail

While it's true that no e-brake runs on a 100% separate mechanism a proper handbrake on competitor cars have no problem doing the rest.

The push-button brake saves interior room and weight. On the downside it is now discrete, either on or off. It's also harder to access in some situations since a button is harder to find in the case where the car is out of control so the ergonomics are **** by comparison.
Old 01-18-2013, 01:12 PM
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I have had this type of brake for a few years now on my SRX's and they work just fine. I actually like them a lot more. Who needs to look at the ugly old parking brake lever on their console anyway? Another old school thing that has gone by the wayside, which is a good thing.
Old 01-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jvp
Bill's more right than I am in this case (or more accurate). The system will stop the car in an emergency if needed, though..

"The EPB can be applied any time the vehicle is stopped."

So how can this be used to stop the moving Corvette??
Old 01-18-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Ramey hates electricity. Here is a photo of his seer 14 home air conditioner.

you have to admit, it's be a lot cheaper, simpler, last longer and be easier to fix!

give me a margarita and lots of ice and i'll take that over an AC any day...
Old 01-18-2013, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sprtplt
So how can this be used to stop the moving Corvette??
You reach down, grab the little rocker button, and pull it upwards. And hold on, because the violence will follow shortly thereafter.

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Old 01-18-2013, 02:06 PM
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Make it an option. Gimme a handle that I can use to actuate the brake exactly as I want to, the children that cant be trusted with something so complex as a handle can have their pushbuttons. Don't want to listen to them crying when they get their Nintendo taken away.
Old 01-18-2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
The push-button brake saves interior room and weight. On the downside it is now discrete, either on or off. It's also harder to access in some situations since a button is harder to find in the case where the car is out of control so the ergonomics are **** by comparison.
EPB is not either on or off.

If the EPB is applied while the
vehicle is in motion, a chime will
sound, and a DIC message will be
displayed. See Brake System
Messages. The
vehicle will decelerate as long as
the switch is held in the up position.
Releasing the EPB switch during
the deceleration will release the
parking brake. If the switch is held
in the up position until the vehicle
comes to a stop, the EPB will
remain applied.
Old 01-18-2013, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by c54u
EPB is not either on or off.

If the EPB is applied while the
vehicle is in motion, a chime will
sound, and a DIC message will be
displayed. See Brake System
Messages. The
vehicle will decelerate as long as
the switch is held in the up position.
Releasing the EPB switch during
the deceleration will release the
parking brake. If the switch is held
in the up position until the vehicle
comes to a stop, the EPB will
remain applied.
If it's not either on or off I don't see that from what you have quoted. "remained applied" sounds like ON to me.
Old 01-18-2013, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by c54u
When the e-brake is on, it will hold the car. As soon as you give the car enough gas to go forward, the e-braked disengages automatically.

I don't think so! I'm sure Chevy copied Cadillac on the E-brake, since they have had one operational for 3 years. The e-brake does not automatically disengage, it is ONLY released when you step on the brake and push the button down, no other way! I mean really whats the point of putting the e-brake on while driving, by accident, how stupid are you or your passenger?

My 2011 CTS V has one, with my biggest complant being it's noisey when you first engage it, hopfully tht's been improved on the Corvette version.

Another misconception is that it will engage while driving. To many things have to happen and the computer tells you your stupid for pulling the switch up, as does the reaction of the car. The e-brake is disengaged as soon as the car transmission is put in gear, basically becomes useless, so no drifting in the C7 - well at least not with the parking brake

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
I wonder how many trys it took to get it right? Very KOOL By the skid markings it surely wasn't the first!
Old 01-18-2013, 06:49 PM
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Then there is the Gone in 60 Seconds car chase, two j-turns in the first few seconds.
Old 01-18-2013, 06:56 PM
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Does the C7 have hill hold assist? The 2013 Camaros have it across the board now.
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Originally Posted by Joe aka - KODAK
I don't think so! I'm sure Chevy copied Cadillac on the E-brake, since they have had one operational for 3 years. The e-brake does not automatically disengage, it is ONLY released when you step on the brake and push the button down, no other way! I mean really whats the point of putting the e-brake on while driving, by accident, how stupid are you or your passenger?

My 2011 CTS V has one, with my biggest complant being it's noisey when you first engage it, hopfully tht's been improved on the Corvette version.

Make sure your parking brake is on before you start the car. Now start the car and put it in gear. Now give it some gas.....it has to let go.

From the Cadillac CTS-V 2011 manual page 9-37

Same goes for 2012 and 2013 models but found on different pages.

Automatic EPB Release
The EPB will automatically release
if the vehicle is running, placed into
gear, and an attempt is made to
drive away. Avoid rapid acceleration
when the EPB is applied, to
preserve park brake lining life.
The EPB can also be used to
prevent roll back for vehicles with
a manual transmission taking off on
a hill. In a situation where no roll
back is desired, an applied EPB will
allow both feet to be used for the
clutch and accelerator pedals in
preparation for starting the vehicle
moving in the intended direction.
In this situation, perform the normal
clutch and/or accelerator actions
required to begin moving the
vehicle. There is no need to push
the switch to release the EPB.

If you are towing a trailer and
parking on a hill, see Driving
Characteristics and Towing Tips on
page 9‑53 for more information.
Old 01-18-2013, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe aka - KODAK
I wonder how many trys it took to get it right? Very KOOL By the skid markings it surely wasn't the first!
I think the timing of the events is backwards. He/she probably did a series of turns to perfect the procedure as well as to create a "driving line" out of tire marks. Then the other two Mini's were placed. Then a 20th turn was made. They don't show you that.
Old 01-18-2013, 09:06 PM
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in an electric parking brake it will get released once you press the gas

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Old 01-19-2013, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jvp
I don't believe you're correct. There's nothing on the brake caliper that you can pull with a cable. With the case of the Corvette and the aforementioned CTS-V, the parking/E-brake makes use of the 4 calipers. No extra brake hardware, hub, etc are included.

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some one posted some new pics under the c7 and I can see brake cable going to each side of the rear wheel. hydraulic brake lock is illegal
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Originally Posted by irvbulldogs72
Does the C7 have hill hold assist? The 2013 Camaros have it across the board now.
hill assist & launch control

or people can learn how to drive better
Old 01-19-2013, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by al89
hydraulic brake lock is illegal
It simply isn't. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.

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