several serious reasons the C7 is inadequate
01-13-2013, 09:13 PM
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a corvette is not a muscle car!
0-60 time versus a rear engine kinda not gonna compete traction not on the vets side
i love the new c7 ALL of it
0-60 time versus a rear engine kinda not gonna compete traction not on the vets side
i love the new c7 ALL of it
01-13-2013, 09:17 PM
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The only thing you can do with a 662HP mustang is take it to a drag strip. The corvette is made for a road track - A 450 HP vette will make a GT 500 look stupid on a road course. Unless you get a thrill out of flooring it 10 seconds, or takingi it to a local street race - the corvette is a much better car.
Power matters...this is a CORVETTE forum right? Are we seriously saying that less power is okay? WTF has happened here??
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html
01-13-2013, 09:19 PM
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You are dead wrong. The C6 was NOT faster than the C5 Z06. That was said several times by Dave Hill! This C7 is much better looking than the C5 and C6. The C7 has standard Brembo brakes. Did the C6 have them? No. Shall I continue?
01-13-2013, 09:20 PM
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This car is going to be a BEAST on a Road Course right out of the show room! 
01-13-2013, 09:22 PM
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This styling is just ridiculous..
01-13-2013, 09:27 PM
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Well
1- the jump from C5 to C6 was a 50 hp increase!! the C6 to C7 is 14? isnt that a K&N filter on the LS3? they say the torque is like the LS7 at low rpms..will have to see how relevant that is.
2- the base C6 was as fast as the previous Z06!! The C7 will weigh more than the C6 Z06 and have 50 hp less power....is that supposed to be exciting? Im not saying the base C7 should be a C6 ZR1..but its been 8 years!!! The C7 should be breaking the C6's records in a big way!
3- when the C6 came out with 400hp, it had *100HP* more than the brand new mustang...the C7 with 450HP isnt doing anything special..thats just average now for sports cars
4- this car needs to be in the solid mid 11's with a mid to low 3 second 0-60 to be exciting, especially at $59 grand.
5- this car has no links to the stingray..calling it that is ridiculous...it doesnt have the curves and it doesnt have the mystery
Heres what the C7 SHOULD have been:
200 lbs lighter..figure it out GM
better seats and a somewhat nicer interior
535 hp
11.4 quarter mile, 3.4s 0-60
LED headlights (not LED DRL's)
NOT a camaro rear end
$55000 base model with those specs
2- the base C6 was as fast as the previous Z06!! The C7 will weigh more than the C6 Z06 and have 50 hp less power....is that supposed to be exciting? Im not saying the base C7 should be a C6 ZR1..but its been 8 years!!! The C7 should be breaking the C6's records in a big way!
3- when the C6 came out with 400hp, it had *100HP* more than the brand new mustang...the C7 with 450HP isnt doing anything special..thats just average now for sports cars
4- this car needs to be in the solid mid 11's with a mid to low 3 second 0-60 to be exciting, especially at $59 grand.
5- this car has no links to the stingray..calling it that is ridiculous...it doesnt have the curves and it doesnt have the mystery
Heres what the C7 SHOULD have been:
200 lbs lighter..figure it out GM
better seats and a somewhat nicer interior
535 hp
11.4 quarter mile, 3.4s 0-60
LED headlights (not LED DRL's)
NOT a camaro rear end
$55000 base model with those specs
01-13-2013, 09:27 PM
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By stupid do you mean the GT500 will be 2 seconds faster than an 05 C6 Z06 at Laguna Seca?
Power matters...this is a CORVETTE forum right? Are we seriously saying that less power is okay? WTF has happened here??
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html
Power matters...this is a CORVETTE forum right? Are we seriously saying that less power is okay? WTF has happened here??
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virgin...l_raceway.html
Funny how you choose to take a car from back in '05 to compare to the latest Mustang, and on only one track. Very comprehensive
01-13-2013, 09:34 PM
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1- the jump from C5 to C6 was a 50 hp increase!! the C6 to C7 is 14? isnt that a K&N filter on the LS3? they say the torque is like the LS7 at low rpms..will have to see how relevant that is.
2- the base C6 was as fast as the previous Z06!! The C7 will weigh more than the C6 Z06 and have 50 hp less power....is that supposed to be exciting? Im not saying the base C7 should be a C6 ZR1..but its been 8 years!!! The C7 should be breaking the C6's records in a big way!
3- when the C6 came out with 400hp, it had *100HP* more than the brand new mustang...the C7 with 450HP isnt doing anything special..thats just average now for sports cars
4- this car needs to be in the solid mid 11's with a mid to low 3 second 0-60 to be exciting, especially at $59 grand.
5- this car has no links to the stingray..calling it that is ridiculous...it doesnt have the curves and it doesnt have the mystery
Heres what the C7 SHOULD have been:
200 lbs lighter..figure it out GM
better seats and a somewhat nicer interior
535 hp
11.4 quarter mile, 3.4s 0-60
LED headlights (not LED DRL's)
NOT a camaro rear end
$55000 base model with those specs
2- the base C6 was as fast as the previous Z06!! The C7 will weigh more than the C6 Z06 and have 50 hp less power....is that supposed to be exciting? Im not saying the base C7 should be a C6 ZR1..but its been 8 years!!! The C7 should be breaking the C6's records in a big way!
3- when the C6 came out with 400hp, it had *100HP* more than the brand new mustang...the C7 with 450HP isnt doing anything special..thats just average now for sports cars
4- this car needs to be in the solid mid 11's with a mid to low 3 second 0-60 to be exciting, especially at $59 grand.
5- this car has no links to the stingray..calling it that is ridiculous...it doesnt have the curves and it doesnt have the mystery
Heres what the C7 SHOULD have been:
200 lbs lighter..figure it out GM
better seats and a somewhat nicer interior
535 hp
11.4 quarter mile, 3.4s 0-60
LED headlights (not LED DRL's)
NOT a camaro rear end
$55000 base model with those specs
You are entitled to your opinion but I think most of your points are weak.
1- difference in HP between the 96 LT4 and 97 LS1 was only 15 and the C5 was a world class sports car at it debut. It was a huge improvement over C4.
2- How can you judge how the C7 stacks up against any C6 when the performance numbers havnt been released and not a single person outside of GM has even driven one?
3-if your only interested in HP, go buy a mustang. The C7 allegedly has the same torque #'s to 4000 rpm as an LS7. Im sure the overall performance will be close to C6 Z06.
4- you have no idea what the numbers will be because, again, no one outside of GM has driven the frign thing!
5- the original stingray on C2 was revolutionary at the time and C3 didnt look anything like C2, so if they called C3 a stingray, why cant they call C7 one also? Its part of its heritage, so just because it looks different its not a Corvette Stingray?
I dont know why I bothered reading this text or even wasting my time with a response. I would have just rather read another square tail lamp complaint. Enjoy your Laguna Seca Mustang or GTR, Ill gladly be parking a C7 next to my trusty LMB Z in the garage. Have to drive something after the LS7 blows up right?
01-13-2013, 09:34 PM
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im glad we are sure that the C7 doesnt have to be as fast as the C6 Z06 lol wheres my $59 grand
01-13-2013, 09:39 PM
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A C6 Grandsport seems to be running a faster laptime at VIR.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virgin...l_raceway.html
Funny how you choose to take a car from back in '05 to compare to the latest Mustang, and on only one track. Very comprehensive
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/virgin...l_raceway.html
Funny how you choose to take a car from back in '05 to compare to the latest Mustang, and on only one track. Very comprehensive
01-13-2013, 09:40 PM
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You are entitled to your opinion but I think most of your points are weak.
1- difference in HP between the 96 LT4 and 97 LS1 was only 15 and the C5 was a world class sports car at it debut. It was a huge improvement over C4.
2- How can you judge how the C7 stacks up against any C6 when the performance numbers havnt been released and not a single person outside of GM has even driven one?
3-if your only interested in HP, go buy a mustang. The C7 allegedly has the same torque #'s to 4000 rpm as an LS7. Im sure the overall performance will be close to C6 Z06.
4- you have no idea what the numbers will be because, again, no one outside of GM has driven the frign thing!
5- the original stingray on C2 was revolutionary at the time and C3 didnt look anything like C2, so if they called C3 a stingray, why cant they call C7 one also? Its part of its heritage, so just because it looks different its not a Corvette Stingray?
I dont know why I bothered reading this text or even wasting my time with a response. I would have just rather read another square tail lamp complaint. Enjoy your Laguna Seca Mustang or GTR, Ill gladly be parking a C7 next to my trusty LMB Z in the garage. Have to drive something after the LS7 blows up right?
1- difference in HP between the 96 LT4 and 97 LS1 was only 15 and the C5 was a world class sports car at it debut. It was a huge improvement over C4.
2- How can you judge how the C7 stacks up against any C6 when the performance numbers havnt been released and not a single person outside of GM has even driven one?
3-if your only interested in HP, go buy a mustang. The C7 allegedly has the same torque #'s to 4000 rpm as an LS7. Im sure the overall performance will be close to C6 Z06.
4- you have no idea what the numbers will be because, again, no one outside of GM has driven the frign thing!
5- the original stingray on C2 was revolutionary at the time and C3 didnt look anything like C2, so if they called C3 a stingray, why cant they call C7 one also? Its part of its heritage, so just because it looks different its not a Corvette Stingray?
I dont know why I bothered reading this text or even wasting my time with a response. I would have just rather read another square tail lamp complaint. Enjoy your Laguna Seca Mustang or GTR, Ill gladly be parking a C7 next to my trusty LMB Z in the garage. Have to drive something after the LS7 blows up right?
01-13-2013, 09:41 PM
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I picked the 05 Z06 because, according to the C7 fans, its definitely faster than the current C7, so it makes the point even more solid that the C7 doesnt do the job a brand new version of the vette should, which is at least be faster than the lower priced mustang on a friggin ROAD COURSE.
01-13-2013, 09:41 PM
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A vettes still a vette.
01-13-2013, 09:42 PM
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Ignorant of what. The C5 Z06 will be faster than the current C7, so how is that not making the point? It weighs less and has 50 more horsepower.
01-13-2013, 09:44 PM
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