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Old 01-07-2013, 09:48 PM
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I used to have a new Camaro SS with the 426 HP engine and compared to a Corvette it drank gas like it was free and didn't seem to have the performance of the Corvette.
Most of this was due to how heavy the Camaro was compared to the Corvette.
Corvette weight was about 3300 and the Camaro was about 3800 and the Camaro Covertible was close to 4200 lbs.
Old 01-08-2013, 07:33 AM
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currently drive a 11 700hp camaro. waiting on the C7 to mod,
C5 was my last Vette,
the one thing the camaro has i needed was a back seat!Kids.lol

the car is heavy and traction is non existent.but the fun factor is off the charts.I'm sure this post will be berated but its just whats up right now.
Old 01-08-2013, 10:02 AM
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A $58,000 Mustang has more factory horsepower than any factory Corvette EVER made.

Times have changed people. Get over it.
Old 01-08-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
A $58,000 Mustang has more factory horsepower than any factory Corvette EVER made.

Times have changed people. Get over it.
And weighs more than ANY vette ever made, what the point?
Old 01-08-2013, 10:54 AM
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Some people think a car is defined by its horsepower rating. IMO they have a very short view of what makes up a performance car. It is ok to dream about having "more" then the other guy but there are a heck of a lot more things that make up a fast car.
Old 01-08-2013, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
Some people think a car is defined by its horsepower rating. IMO they have a very short view of what makes up a performance car. It is ok to dream about having "more" then the other guy but there are a heck of a lot more things that make up a fast car.
Yes. There is muscle cars and sport cars. Mustang is clearly a muscle car and corvette a sports car. Even miata with 120 HP is more of a sports car than any mustang.
Old 01-08-2013, 12:16 PM
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The Camaro ZL1 has more power then a Ferrari 430....so what? Does it mean it is a better car than the Ferrari?
Old 01-08-2013, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rpanesar
The Camaro ZL1 has more power then a Ferrari 430....so what? Does it mean it is a better car than the Ferrari?
I'm sure Sigmund Freud has something to say about that sort of mentality.
Old 01-08-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Smart Line
currently drive a 11 700hp camaro. waiting on the C7 to mod,
C5 was my last Vette,
the one thing the camaro has i needed was a back seat!Kids.lol

the car is heavy and traction is non existent.but the fun factor is off the charts.I'm sure this post will be berated but its just whats up right now.
what makes u think the C7 has a back seat?
Old 01-08-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
Some people think a car is defined by its horsepower rating. IMO they have a very short view of what makes up a performance car. It is ok to dream about having "more" then the other guy but there are a heck of a lot more things that make up a fast car.
I agree, it is really more about the total package than just power or torque numbers. The Camaro and the Mustangs are nice cars in their own niche. The Corvette, like many other sports cars provides it's own driving experience. So comparing the Camaro or Mustang to the Corvette is an apples to oranges comparison.

As far as the Camaro having more HP. The current Camaro has been in production for a few years and has it's higher end models in place. Even the base SS is powered by the the same LS3 in the Vettes. If they put the LS7 in a "Z/28" or whatever they'll call it, It'll be just another option package for the Camaro. The C7 will start out with base package, and 450+ hp in a direct injection motor will be no slouch in the Corvette chassis. As they develop the LTx Gen V engine, we'll see more options. They are already developing the LT4 for future installments of the Corvette. The LS7 and the LS9 will be outdated technology in no time.
Old 01-08-2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet Streaming
I spoke to a GM marketing Exec a few years back when the Camaro first came out. This is what he told me about the new GM and its motors. The Corvette is NO LONGER a sacred Cow for HP. Expect to see the Corvette engine is almost any brand GM makes and the Corvette will no longer have a HP edge of another GM product.
High HP Camaro nothing new:

http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...camaro-zl1.htm

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vem...1/viewall.html

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Old 01-08-2013, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Raitzi
Yes. There is muscle cars and sport cars. Mustang is clearly a muscle car and corvette a sports car. Even miata with 120 HP is more of a sports car than any mustang.
A miata is never more of a sports car than anything
Old 01-08-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
A $58,000 Mustang has more factory horsepower than any factory Corvette EVER made.

Times have changed people. Get over it.
Who cares? It's a Rustang...jeez.

The desperation at Ford has to be mounting on a daily basis.
They have been pouring BIG money into Rustang for the last 5 years with a number of new engines, retro models, totally different bodies, suspensions, trannys, brakes, etc. Yet their top GT 500 (Shelby engineered, not Ford) still can't convince the auto press or the buying public that it is better than the (GM designed and engineered) Camaro, only that it has more hp. Big deal.

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
And weighs more than ANY vette ever made, what the point?
And still doesn't have independent rear suspension.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
New Camero weighs about 1,000 lbs more then the C7 when equipped with the ZL 1.

Power is just one thing. Horsepower to weight ratio is everything when it comes to performance,

Unfortunately, not too many people seem to get this basic fact. You can have 1500Hp but if the car weighs 8 tons, it doesn't mean anything...



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