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Old 01-02-2013, 10:08 AM
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Please touch base if you have an interest in placing an order for a C7 2014 Corvette. 11 more days until the full reveal at the Detroit Auto Show. I have been thru 4 Generation changes since I started selling Corvette's in 1978...this will be exciting! I am not marking up from MSRP.

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what are the chances the 2014 will be orderable via GM employee discount ?
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what are the chances the 2014 will be orderable via GM employee discount ?
GM controls that and usually with a first yr new model Corvette and GMS/GM Supplier pricing is not available.

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GM controls that and usually with a first yr new model Corvette and GMS/GM Supplier pricing is not available.
let me know if you hear different for 2014.

I can tell you this; my local dealer (who I don't care to do business with) said they'd write a deal on a 2014 Corvette... within $350 of the employee pricing. Why ??? They are wanting to increase their allocations.

For $350; heck I'd pay the extra to have a first year C7 in the driveway.

C7 purchasers; look around for dealers willing to deal on the 2014 Corvette. It is different than Camaros and other GM cars. Corvettes work on allocations; and there's some small dealers willing to deal - in order to increase their Corvette allotment.
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let me know if you hear different for 2014.

I can tell you this; my local dealer (who I don't care to do business with) said they'd write a deal on a 2014 Corvette... within $350 of the employee pricing. Why ??? They are wanting to increase their allocations.

For $350; heck I'd pay the extra to have a first year C7 in the driveway.

C7 purchasers; look around for dealers willing to deal on the 2014 Corvette. It is different than Camaros and other GM cars. Corvettes work on allocations; and there's some small dealers willing to deal - in order to increase their Corvette allotment.
It won't be announced until Sept 2014 when the C7 hits the dealerships ...I am stating historically GM does not allow that for the first yr of the generation change for Corvette's. I have been thru 4 Generation changes for the Corvette's.

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GM controls that and usually with a first yr new model Corvette and GMS/GM Supplier pricing is not available.

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So who cares about that? Just wait until Sept 2013 and they will be discounting them like crazy. The first year is going to have all sorts of problems anyway; just like the '68's, 84's, 97's and 05's. I would not touch a C7 for three years based on past performance.
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I would pay extra to have the first one around. My kids and their friends will go crazy and that is worth it for me . Life might be short.....
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The first year is going to have all sorts of problems anyway; just like the '68's, 84's, 97's and 05's.
All cars have problems, not just the first year. I get so sick of people using that logic. If everyone did that there wouldn't be a second year due to no sales of the first year models.
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All cars have problems, not just the first year. I get so sick of people using that logic. If everyone did that there wouldn't be a second year due to no sales of the first year models.
Not really, I just won't buy the first few years of a production model, my preference, many people will. Experience bears this out, that it takes a few years to get the "bugs" out, and there will be problems.
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let me know if you hear different for 2014.

I can tell you this; my local dealer (who I don't care to do business with) said they'd write a deal on a 2014 Corvette... within $350 of the employee pricing. Why ??? They are wanting to increase their allocations.

For $350; heck I'd pay the extra to have a first year C7 in the driveway.

C7 purchasers; look around for dealers willing to deal on the 2014 Corvette. It is different than Camaros and other GM cars. Corvettes work on allocations; and there's some small dealers willing to deal - in order to increase their Corvette allotment.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe their 2014 allocation is based on 2013 corvette sales.

If they only sold a limited # of 2013s they may not receieve any 2014 allocation.

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Not really, I just won't buy the first few years of a production model, my preference, many people will. Experience bears this out, that it takes a few years to get the "bugs" out, and there will be problems.
I bought the 2005 and was plagued with issues like the steering lock, dead battery/reverse gear selection, notchy gear selection, and the differential being a bad design. 2006 was a pretty straight car though. I'd go second year but definitely not the first.

I was pretty envious of the 2006 Z06 though.

I will say one thing: being the first guy in town with a C6 was pretty cool. If I get a C7, it will be a lease.
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I bought the 2005 and was plagued with issues like the steering lock, dead battery/reverse gear selection, notchy gear selection, and the differential being a bad design. 2006 was a pretty straight car though. I'd go second year but definitely not the first.

I was pretty envious of the 2006 Z06 though.

I will say one thing: being the first guy in town with a C6 was pretty cool. If I get a C7, it will be a lease.
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Originally Posted by *C7*
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe their 2014 allocation is based on 2013 corvette sales.

If they only sold a limited # of 2013s they may not receieve any 2014 allocation.

You are 100% correct. The way GM does it is called "Turn and earn". The top selling dealers will most certainly get way more allocation then the smaller dealers.

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Mike, does "allocation" refer only to cars ordered by the dealer for lot resale? Or does it include build-to-order cars per customer specs?
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
let me know if you hear different for 2014.

I can tell you this; my local dealer (who I don't care to do business with) said they'd write a deal on a 2014 Corvette... within $350 of the employee pricing. Why ??? They are wanting to increase their allocations.

For $350; heck I'd pay the extra to have a first year C7 in the driveway.

C7 purchasers; look around for dealers willing to deal on the 2014 Corvette. It is different than Camaros and other GM cars. Corvettes work on allocations; and there's some small dealers willing to deal - in order to increase their Corvette allotment.
Would that be a dealer in St. Mary's, Ohio?
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Originally Posted by CaryKen
Mike, does "allocation" refer only to cars ordered by the dealer for lot resale? Or does it include build-to-order cars per customer specs?
Your answer in an example: The 3rd Tuesday of December 2012 was our last week to order C6's. Our "Allocation" for Criswell Chevrolet was 62 Corvettes to order. 12 of them were SOLD orders for customers and 50 were built for stock. Totaling 62. Does that answer your question properly?

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Originally Posted by Mike@Criswell
Our "Allocation" for Criswell Chevrolet was 62 Corvettes to order. 12 of them were SOLD orders for customers and 50 were built for stock. Totaling 62. Does that answer your question properly?
Yeppers. What I thought, but we all know about the value of assumptions. Thanks!

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Yeppers. What I thought, but we all know about the value of assumptions. Thanks!
It never hurts to ask!

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Originally Posted by *C7*
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe their 2014 allocation is based on 2013 corvette sales.

If they only sold a limited # of 2013s they may not receieve any 2014 allocation.

Yep; but they can increase their 2015 model year allocation by selling more 2014 models. The allocation restriction is lifted - about mid way production year run - and those dealers wanting to - can order more than their initial allotment. My local dealer wants to increase their 2015 allotment - by selling more 2014 Corvettes.

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Mike, does "allocation" refer only to cars ordered by the dealer for lot resale? Or does it include build-to-order cars per customer specs?
I am not in the business, and I hope Mike@Criswell will correct me if wrong. There are no GM "stock" orders of Corvettes. All units ordered are already considered "sold" to a specific dealer. In other words... GM does not -all on their own- make Corvettes for their general inventory; that sit in a general distribution lot - hoping a dealer asks for them. Every Corvette made already has a dealer destination dealt to it; via the very order placed by the dealer. The dealer may consider it their stock unit though. But GM does not make "extra" Corvettes that haven't been already dealer ordered.

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Would that be a dealer in St. Mary's, Ohio?
NO. Although Buds is in Ohio... they are not my local dealer. I would rather buy a C7 through Buds.

Yvonne and I were at our local Chevrolet dealer; she was looking at new crossovers. The salesman that's been our families sales person there asked if I was going to buy the "new Corvette" or not. I told him what Mike@Criswell already stated... that GMO/GMS generally isn't allowed for first year model runs (or first year redesigns). That's when he said they want to get more Corvette allocations and could get "very close" to the employee price for the 2014 model. I asked how close; he said within $350.

I will have to consider that if I'm so hot on the C7 that I won't want to wait for the 2015 model year to get one.

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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
Yep; but they can increase their 2015 model year allocation by selling more 2014 models. The allocation restriction is lifted - about mid way production year run - and those dealers wanting to - can irder more than their initial allotment. My local dealer wants to increase their 2015 allotment - by selling more 2014 Corvettes.



I am not in the business, and I hope Mike@Criswell will correct me if wrong. There are no GM "stock" orders of Corvettes. All units ordered are already considered "sold" to a specific dealer. In other words... GM does not -all on their own- make Corvettes for their general inventory; that sit in a general distribution lot - hoping a dealer asks for them. Every Corvette made already has a dealer destination dealt to it; via the very order placed by the dealer. The dealer may consider it their stock unit though. But GM does not make "extra" Corvettes that haven't been already dealer ordered.



NO. Although Buds is in Ohio... they are not my local dealer. I would rather buy a C7 through Buds.

Yvonne and I were at our local Chevrolet dealer; she was looking at new crossovers. The salesman that's been our families sales person there asked if I was going to buy the "new Corvette" or not. I told him what Mike@Criswell already stated... that GMO/GMS generally isn't allowed for first year model runs (or first year redesigns). That's when he said they want to get more Corvette allocations and could get "very close" to the employee price for the 2014 model. I asked how close; he said within $350.

I will have to consider that if I'm so hot on the C7 that I won't want to wait for the 2015 model year to get one.
I am going to look for you Mike at the industry show. I have your picture ! I will be there with my "movie star" daughter. Look for me. And by the way I have a deposit with Furman because I am quite sure he will produce a car in the first couple of months of production.


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