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Old 12-04-2012, 09:35 PM   #1
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I got the new Hot Rod Magazine in the mail today. It has a great write up on the LT1( four pages) after reading it I have a better understanding of the engine. Also they talk about a few of the engineers laughing at the announced power rating. Following that article that have another section (4 pages) that explain direct injection. If you guys want me to load it up let me know. If not its a great read.***used a crappy hotel scanner and photobucket for the first time..enjoy lol
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #2
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What is funny is that it was a GM press release that went to all the rags that announced the horsepower and torque specs. I guess the 'engineers' are laughing at themselves, as the 450 lbs-ft and 450 HP are on GM's web site. http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/p...olet/gen5.html

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Old 12-04-2012, 09:54 PM   #3
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The consensus is that The General is sandbagging.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:58 PM   #4
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GM has stated from the beginning the LS1 makes AT LEAST 450. They have been baiting us with the claim that it makes more, but we don't know how much more. IMHO they are doing this because the number will be impressive AND because the real HP number is the biggest thing they have to reveal come January since we already know what the car looks like.
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GM has stated from the beginning the LS1 makes AT LEAST 450. They have been baiting us with the claim that it makes more, but we don't know how much more. IMHO they are doing this because the number will be impressive AND because the real HP number is the biggest thing they have to reveal come January since we already know what the car looks like.
I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?

How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:47 PM   #6
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I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?

How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
Oh no, GM would never sandbag us nope, and they would never dribble out videos over a period of months, baiting us with split second images of cammoed C7s, designed to generate huge buzz on the internet. nope they would never do that. They had no idea that when they said estimated hp or 450+ or final hp released on 1-13-13, there would be any extra hype generated.

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM   #7
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They said the same thing about the ZL1 ....450 came in at 480...
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:10 PM   #8
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They said the same thing about the ZL1 ....450 came in at 480...
UM,that would be 550 and 580...
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It will be MORE than 450 hp. How much more is the only real question.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:28 PM   #10
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It will be MORE than 450 hp. How much more is the only real question.
Yeah, i doubt GM will miss out on an extra $1195 for NPP exhaust, so at least 456 hp.

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Yeah, i doubt GM will miss out on an extra $1195 for NPP exhaust, so at least 456 hp.
Funny and true..
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Yeah, i doubt GM will miss out on an extra $1195 for NPP exhaust, so at least 456 hp.
Great point!
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Its not really 1100 extra except to the one 78 year old lady who insisted on keeping the stock exhaust before NPP came along.
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Its not really 1100 extra except to the one 78 year old lady who insisted on keeping the stock exhaust before NPP came along.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:03 AM   #15
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Please scan or post it up, I'd love to take a look at the article. Couldn't find it online.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:11 AM   #16
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Ya I'd love to read it too.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:32 AM   #17
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Also they talk about a few of the engineers laughing at the announced power rating.
I like that part.
475hp would be nice...but I'm counting on only 460-465ish as a final rating.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:50 AM   #18
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I'm traveling today I will post it once I get to my hotel.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:01 AM   #19
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Someone needs to start a two question survey.

Will the BASE C7 have more than 450HP? Yes or No

Will the BASE C7 weigh less than 3000 lbs? Yes or No
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Someone needs to start a two question survey.

Will the BASE C7 have more than 450HP? Yes or No

Will the BASE C7 weigh less than 3000 lbs? Yes or No
GM will find a way to advertise the the 'base' car at 2950-2975.
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