Why all the C7 Negativity?
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Burning Brakes
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Why all the C7 Negativity?
It seems like there is a lot of negative comments regarding the C7 before its even been unveiled to the public. Some dont like the LT1 and the cylinder deactivation ETC. I personally am looking forward to a revolutionary body style much different than the current C6 with a upgraded interior and better seats. GM has spent a lot of time on this car and it will outperform the C6 at every level. It becomes harder every year for the manufacturers to meet all the Fed standards and Cafe ratings and still have the performance wanted. Certain things like cylinder deactivation are necessary to build these cars.
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We all know the saying "You can't judge a book by its cover." There are many members here who are judging the C7 not only before they read the book, but before they even see the cover. Shame really, as the C7 may be an outstanding automobile.
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My negativity is that Chevy is ditching the only two engines that set Corvette apart from the muscle car crowd, the LS7 and LS9. Now we have a base model only. That's the problem.
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The C6 Z06 and ZR1 did not arrive during the first model year. Information we have received over the last few months suggests that the C7 Z06 may be out by the 2015 model year.
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If it really happens, and I won't hold my breath given the ownership of GM, I will lose my negativity.
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How do you know we will only have a base model? That's the only engine(LT1) that GM has released any info on, at this point. Doesn't mean that it will be the ONLY engine available in the C7.
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What information over the past few months suggests the the C7 Z06 may be out by the 2015 model year?
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Perhaps you missed the new CAFE regulations passed by a Democrat supermajority in 2009 at the direction of the major owner of GM, President Obama? Think that had no impact on the new C7? I would like to hear your evidence, be specific please.
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But...
The government ownership of GM stock and the CAFE regulations are two completely different issues. CAFE is industry-wide. I doubt that it was directed specifically at GM or the C7 for that matter.
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Fascinating you think we'll only have one engine forever when GM has clearly been testing the new motor under boost.
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-reve...g-twin-turbos/
With the new regulations, boost is EASILY one of the ways to reach the standards with good power.
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-reve...g-twin-turbos/
With the new regulations, boost is EASILY one of the ways to reach the standards with good power.
#13
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It seems like there is a lot of negative comments regarding the C7 before its even been unveiled to the public. Some dont like the LT1 and the cylinder deactivation ETC. I personally am looking forward to a revolutionary body style much different than the current C6 with a upgraded interior and better seats. GM has spent a lot of time on this car and it will outperform the C6 at every level. It becomes harder every year for the manufacturers to meet all the Fed standards and Cafe ratings and still have the performance wanted. Certain things like cylinder deactivation are necessary to build these cars.
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The only negative aspect of the C7 (and it is major) as far as I am concerned, is that I was told by an individual I know quite well that is with Chevy district in my area is that the 2014 C7 will not offer a dual clutch tranny. I have owned 10 Vettes my last one being a 2010 GS vert. All have been 6 speed manuals, and after test driving cars that have DCT, i decided that, for me, it is the only way to go. This is a technology that Corvette must have in order to get me, and many others, to buy a C7. If Ferrari, McLaren, Porsche, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan, and others can offer DCT, so can and must Chevy.
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1. Fact: 26% of GM is owned by the federal government not President Obama. Unless things have changed recently, we are the federal goverment.
2. Fact: GM sold 9 million vehicles worldwide in 2011. Of those 13,164 were Corvettes. That is 0.13% for those math challenged people out there that impact the CAFE score. However, the Corvette is used as a key development & engineering platforms and that benefits other vehicles.
3. Fact: The LT1 is the Corvette base engine with more torque and HP than the outgoing LS3. It introduces direct injection which improves power and MPG. What's wrong with that? The fact it gets BETTER miles per gallon is a bonus, right?
4. Fact: The LS6, LS7 and LS9 engines were introduced years after the LS1 and LS2 engines came out. This is normal development and marketing process. When GM does make a Covette with more HP, I doubt the CAFE rating will have any influence over the design because so few will be sold.
5. Fact: VP Joe Biden owns a 1967 Corvette. So Corvettes and democrates do mix.
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Wax Weekly You really hit the nail on the head. Negative is right. Just like being at a Corvette car club meeting only on line. I post on Bimmerpost forum and you don't read crap like this on that forum.
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RonnieC6Z Right once again. Notice anything. Every car Ronnie named with a dual clutch transmission is a premium brand foreign car. Except Nissan which I don't consider a premium brand. This is the kind of thing I have been saying for months and is why the new Corvette will be a C6.4.
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Sorry, but somehow on this "ownership" issue, I don't have any control, influence, input, nor do I get any money from GM, nor did I have any direct say in this "investment" by the government. So I am not the federal government as represented by the Democrats in DC, but Obama and Biden talk about GM and their "investment" all the time so you can see my confusion as to who is really in charge here. And I am surprised Joe has a '67 Corvette, so I guess he and I have one thing in common, but that is not enough for me to confirm that Corvettes and democrates (sic) do mix.
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He fails to see the reality of GM performance in the form of, among others, a new, higher HP, base C7, the Camaro ZL1, the Caddy CTS-V, and all the crate motors GM sells.
He evidently doesn't realize that you can still buy new Z06/ZR1s and that you can buy LS7 and LS9 crate engines.