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Old 10-28-2012, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JLinNY
Well if you listen to some of the idiots on here, we really haven't seen it yet
You REALLY need to What do you possibly care what anyone else thinks?
Old 10-28-2012, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
So the first year GTR was 480 hp, 434 lb ft with a curb weight of 3800 lbs. The C7 will START with at least 450 hp, at least 450 lb ft, and a weight of around 3200 lbs.

The C7 will increase hp and tq just as the LS2 to the LS3, the LS7 and the LS9.
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
Old 10-28-2012, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DRLC5
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
What is the result of all that HP increase? Has any of that significantly helped GTR sales? I think Nissan has felt the need to increase hp like the Mustang guys have but the bottom line is that neither has seen huge sales jumps over their competition from it.

Sales of the Ford Mustang for September of 2012 were 4,439....the Chevrolet Camaro sold 5,670 units.
Now that is some funny chit, IMHO!
Old 10-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DRLC5
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
BTW, if it hauls such serious ***, why aren't you driving a GTR?
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Originally Posted by DRLC5
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
LS3 based LS9 is 638hp. Dat sum funny chit
Old 10-28-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck-I


Biggest suprise? I guess that would be the weird lookin seats.
Seats?? At first glance, I thought that was the steering wheel and/or instrument panel. lol
Old 10-28-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DRLC5
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
Cost of the GTR has continued to rise too..
Old 10-28-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by elegant
I am surprised at all the negativity about the car on this forum. Let's remember how much negativity there was about the C5's huge butt (I bought one and loved that car and quickly got over its rear end) and then when the C6 first appeared, the hated of its exposed headlights (again when it first appeared -- and, yes, I bought/have one and really like it), yet C5 sales were great, and before the recent recession, the C6 sold over 40,000 units in 2006.

So, while I remain surprised about how much there is, on this forum (and even more of it on the other forum) C7 "dislike of this", and "intense dislike of that" C7 feature, I will not be surprised at C7 sales being good! And, I will buy a C7 and will really like its improvements, and love driving it!!!
You are so right ! I love it when someone says they need to bring back pop up head lights .................
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Originally Posted by roundlight lover
Suprise to me was having the audacity to make the entire body look NOT like a Chevrolet . Nothing smiles on it. Nothing says Americana Route 66 on it. And the rear - regardless of light shape - looks like so many "doggie bearing down for duty" sports car butts.
Simple solution ...................... Buy a Prius. Sounds like your kind of car .................... Jus say'n
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Originally Posted by CarBoy
I am surprised at what appears to be a 60" plasma screen TV for the rear window.
Makes it easier for us 'ol folks to see out of ...................... when we back over yah
Old 10-28-2012, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
Cylinder deactivation. I am surprised to find this feature on a performance engine. I never down a new innovation, it may be great. I will save my judgement till after the test drive. I will test drive this car/engine before I purchase. I hope the LT-1 engine lives up to GM's expectations.
Based on all the test mules and the constant driving these C7s are getting, I'm sure they would have noticed if CD isn't going to be a good choice for the Vette.

After all, these guys are indeed Vette guys. Just like us, maybe a little more hardcore, they want their Vette to be a serious performer. So you can trust that if it passes with these guys' seal of approval, it's likely going to be awesome.

Honestly, after looking at videos of AFM, I'm not worried one bit. In fact, I think while at a stop light the engine should drop down to 4 cyl too. After all, if your car isn't moving, and your foot is on the brake, it should know you're not going anywhere. You're just wasting fuel. But the moment you take your foot off the brake it should go back to V8 mode.

The change over between the modes is so fast we'd never really notice.

Originally Posted by DRLC5
It really dont matter what the weight of the GTR is as it still hauls serious *** reguardless of it being a heavy pig, Also it used the same engine for every hp increase.And is now at what 545hp. The LS2 to LS3 went up what 36hp? and now from LS3 to LT1 14hp lol.that is funny chit..
It's amazing what you can do with artificial displacement.

I'd take a Vette over a GTR any day.
Old 10-28-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by elegant
I am surprised at all the negativity about the car on this forum.
What surprises me is the unbridled negativity and hostility towards other posters on this forum. Anybody with the temerity to express a differing opinion, supposition, or preference about almost anything can expect to receive insults and personal attacks.

Can't we disagree about technical details and offer contrasting guesses as to potential developments without descending to name calling?

Sigh.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
BTW, if it hauls such serious ***, why aren't you driving a GTR?
I am along with my new CTS V...LOL.Now Im ending the funny Chit.LMAO..CU in your C7
Old 10-28-2012, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DRLC5
I am along with my new CTS V...LOL.Now Im ending the funny Chit.LMAO..CU in your C7
Didn't you read? I'm gonna buy your CTS-V when you get your C7! I'm keeping my '05 vert and getting a hot Caddy as I enter my old age. Deal?
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Originally Posted by Racer X

First I think the two part carryover is an exaggeration. I am sure there are more than a few fasteners that carry over. Heck, they said there more than 2 parts that carry over in the engine (what was it some starter bolts and piston pins?).

This proclamation by the engineers is BS anyways. I couldn't care less if they use some proven C6 parts on the C7. What pisses me off is that they use parts from other cheap GM cars.

The steering wheel in my 2011 GS? The same one that is in my wife's old Saturn Aura. I couldn't find a list, but I know other parts were/are used too.

That is what pisses me off. Then they brag about not using parts from the C6 like that is some kind of accomplishment? You want to impress me? Give me my own steering wheel.

F***ing lame.

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Originally Posted by CaryKen
What surprises me is the unbridled negativity and hostility towards other posters on this forum. Anybody with the temerity to express a differing opinion, supposition, or preference about almost anything can expect to receive insults and personal attacks.

Can't we disagree about technical details and offer contrasting guesses as to potential developments without descending to name calling?

Sigh.
You think this is bad? Go to read a few threads in OT. I am pretty sure people there derive their worth from post counts and being the biggest sh**heads possible.
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Assuming the renderings are close to the final design, I'm mostly surprised by the evolutionary approach to the styling. Looks more similar to European sport design than American muscle.

I was expecting something much more nostalgic in appearance, mirroring the iconic design cues that made this car so unique in the past.

Too bad, I'm planning to buy a new American muscle car and was really looking forward to this one...guess I'll have to take a second look at the Camaro.

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Old 10-28-2012, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by You_Vette_Your_Ass
You want to impress me? Give me my own steering wheel.

F***ing lame.
Yeah, I totally agree that the Vette should have it's own unique steering wheel. My 05 did!
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Yeah, I totally agree that the Vette should have it's own unique steering wheel. My 05 did!
Yep, I remember. That 4 spoke wheel IIRC... Lucky.

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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Yeah, I totally agree that the Vette should have it's own unique steering wheel. My 05 did!
Iirc, those were the ones with the Pillsbury logo embossed into the air bag cover .....................


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