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Old 10-25-2012, 04:57 PM
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Default LT1 450 TQ IS Wrong ---

Ok the 450 Tq # is wrong if you just look at the chart they put out it clearly shows the Tq is over the 450 line.



And also don't understand the people that are disappointed with the LT1 -

If the LT1 matches the lS7 on Torque and is in a lighter car that is also better geared thanks to the new 7 speed, I for one think the new C7 will give the C6 Z06 a run for its money.
Old 10-25-2012, 05:17 PM
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So you're saying it really should be 452lb/ft? :P

Lets get the LT1 torque curve straight here (pun intended).

The LT1 torque curve is very similar to the LS7 until about 4k, which is very impressive and a significant improvement over the LS3. However, beyond 4k, the LS7's power curve would make the LT1 look pretty silly.

Torque for the LT1 plateaus at 4k while LS7 continue to rise until it makes peak torque at 4800rpm and likely carries that advantage through the rest of the powerband. There is a reason why they only plotted the LS7 to 4k rpm. No sense in making the new engine play 2nd fiddle to an old engine during its reveal.
Old 10-25-2012, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
So you're saying it really should be 452lb/ft? :P

Lets get the LT1 torque curve straight here (pun intended).

The LT1 torque curve is very similar to the LS7 until about 4k, which is very impressive and a significant improvement over the LS3. However, beyond 4k, the LS7's power curve would make the LT1 look pretty silly.

Torque for the LT1 plateaus at 4k while LS7 continue to rise until it makes peak torque at 4800rpm and likely carries that advantage through the rest of the powerband. There is a reason why they only plotted the LS7 to 4k rpm. No sense in making the new engine play 2nd fiddle to an old engine during its reveal.
Life begins @ 4000 RPM
Old 10-25-2012, 06:14 PM
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c7 gonna need to drop alot of wait to keep up with a car that makes at the wheels then what it makes at the engine
Old 10-25-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKVETTE102
c7 gonna need to drop alot of wait to keep up with a car that makes at the wheels then what it makes at the engine
Is the engine connected directly to the wheel hub?
Old 10-25-2012, 06:42 PM
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LS7s are still blowing themselves up..so just maybe they are making to much torque.. just check the Z section
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that shows only the toque from 2k to 4k, anything else is speculative. heck, I say it keep going up in a straight line to 5200 then levels off, lol.
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Originally Posted by flange
that shows only the toque from 2k to 4k, anything else is speculative. heck, I say it keep going up in a straight line to 5200 then levels off, lol.
The graph I see in the first post show the torque going to ~6500 RPM. They just highlighted the graph from 2000-4000 RPM.

I also see two horsepower lines (both dotted) with the grey line being the LS3(one dotted line showing 430 Hp and the second dotted line showing 436 HP. The red dotted line(and the almost matching gray dotted line) show 450 HP and 456 HP for the LT1. I'm assuming that the 450 is without NPP and the 456 is with NPP.

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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Is the engine connected directly to the wheel hub?
I dont think you got it. The LS7 makes similar at the wheels in the current Z06 then the LT1 makes at the crankshaft. So the C7 will have to pull off alot of weight to keep up with the C6 Z06
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Originally Posted by BLACKVETTE102
I dont think you got it. The LS7 makes similar at the wheels in the current Z06 then the LT1 makes at the crankshaft. So the C7 will have to pull off alot of weight to keep up with the C6 Z06
It probably will.
Old 10-25-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by troller399
LS7s are still blowing themselves up..so just maybe they are making to much torque.. just check the Z section
It has nothing to do with torque...
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Originally Posted by Carver Electrics
It probably will.
If you think the Base C7 will drop enough weight to keep up with the more powerful C6Z, prepare to be as disappointed as everyone who had expected 500+hp for the LT1
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
If you think the Base C7 will drop enough weight to keep up with the more powerful C6Z, prepare to be as disappointed as everyone who had expected 500+hp for the LT1
We will see when the final numbers are out. Just in case. Prepare to be beaten at the track.
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Originally Posted by Jawnathin
If you think the Base C7 will drop enough weight to keep up with the more powerful C6Z, prepare to be as disappointed as everyone who had expected 500+hp for the LT1
Old 10-25-2012, 11:05 PM
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Guys... ffs.. get a grip.

You've seen this before. C5z06 vs base C6. The C5Z noses ahead...

Same will happen here.

Why the eff are you complaining about that? This is the BASE C7 engine for crying out loud. What a bunch of whiners.
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Originally Posted by McMung
Guys... ffs.. get a grip.

You've seen this before. C5z06 vs base C6. The C5Z noses ahead...

Same will happen here.

Why the eff are you complaining about that? This is the BASE C7 engine for crying out loud. What a bunch of whiners.
Some want z06 performance for base model pricing, the base model c7 at least initially upon release will be a hair under c6 z06 performance numbers, expect later on in the c7 life cycle to exceed the z06. GM does it this way so the beta testers can fix the problems, then move on to the high performance models.
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the part i always lol about is this omg it needs more power talk

and no threads talk about tires

driving burn out machines really isn't that quick around a course. it's a white knuckle car

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Old 10-25-2012, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by racebum
the part i always lol about is this omg it needs more power talk

and no threads talk about tires

driving burn out machines really isn't that quick around a course. it's a white knuckle car
What Chevy needs to do is ditch good yr and have exclusively Michelin.
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Originally Posted by Jp23rockstar
What Chevy needs to do is ditch good yr and have exclusively Michelin.
would be a good start. while i'm not a brandwagon guy michelin and yokohama continually make winners while goodyear & firestone....don't
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I think it's all going to be fine, the car will be a total blast to drive.


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