The new Corvette Ferrari
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The C7 has to look like something that people dream of. Ferrari is the supercar that most aspiring sport car buyers dream of. Between a Corvette and a Ferrari; nobody would choice a Corvette if they could afford to step up to a Ferrari! That just how it is. Ferrari is sold well worldwide; not so for Corvette.
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The C7 has to look like something that people dream of. Ferrari is the supercar that most aspiring sport car buyers dream of. Between a Corvette and a Ferrari; nobody would choice a Corvette if they could afford to step up to a Ferrari! That just how it is. Ferrari is sold well worldwide; not so for Corvette.
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I normally wouldn't say something like this, because again, I'm as big a Vette fan as anyone, but all the Corvette nutswingers that say it looks NOTHING like a 599 are sadly in denial. These are probably the same people who think everything GM ever made was a GEM. They'd gladly eat up anything GM badged "Corvette" and shoved down their throats.
Sorry, but a Corvette should be absolutely and unmistakingly a Corvette(and that car isn't, like it or not). You never had to read a badge to know a Vette when you saw it, even if it was a brand new design. It's a car that even a total idiot who knows NOTHING about cars should be able to pick out in a crowd. It shouldn't resemble ANY other car, not even vaguely. Sorry folks...the ball has been dropped. Really hoping the C8 will make up for it.
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Finally someone who gets it. I've been die-hard Vette from day 1 but I'm not digging the new design AT ALL. I really don't see much "natural evolution" in it. It's like doctor frankenstein took a scoop here, and a fender there, and made a design from about 12 different cars...none of which were another Vette. The drivetrain will probably make it a beast, and no doubt it'll still be the best bang for the buck out there, but it's not a Vette.
I normally wouldn't say something like this, because again, I'm as big a Vette fan as anyone, but all the Corvette nutswingers that say it looks NOTHING like a 599 are sadly in denial. These are probably the same people who think everything GM ever made was a GEM. They'd gladly eat up anything GM badged "Corvette" and shoved down their throats.
Sorry, but a Corvette should be absolutely and unmistakingly a Corvette(and that car isn't, like it or not). You never had to read a badge to know a Vette when you saw it, even if it was a brand new design. It's a car that even a total idiot who knows NOTHING about cars should be able to pick out in a crowd. It shouldn't resemble ANY other car, not even vaguely. Sorry folks...the ball has been dropped. Really hoping the C8 will make up for it.
I normally wouldn't say something like this, because again, I'm as big a Vette fan as anyone, but all the Corvette nutswingers that say it looks NOTHING like a 599 are sadly in denial. These are probably the same people who think everything GM ever made was a GEM. They'd gladly eat up anything GM badged "Corvette" and shoved down their throats.
Sorry, but a Corvette should be absolutely and unmistakingly a Corvette(and that car isn't, like it or not). You never had to read a badge to know a Vette when you saw it, even if it was a brand new design. It's a car that even a total idiot who knows NOTHING about cars should be able to pick out in a crowd. It shouldn't resemble ANY other car, not even vaguely. Sorry folks...the ball has been dropped. Really hoping the C8 will make up for it.
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And it seems someone else actually saw what I saw, as soon as I looked at the thing:
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I've been die-hard Vette from day 1 but I'm not digging the new design AT ALL. I really don't see much "natural evolution" in it. It's like doctor frankenstein took a scoop here, and a fender there, and made a design from about 12 different cars...none of which were another Vette.
That's exactly right! The APPARENT C7 design - at least as shown in the Jalopnik renderings - doesn't flow naturally. It looks cobbled together. If, as some say, there is only one basic shape available that doesn't mean it has to be discontinuous in its execution. Many of those other so called "same basic shapes" do a much better job of pulling the design elements together than does that shown in the rendering. Heck, the 240 - 280 Z was less disjointed than this!
I hope the rendering is wrong, or has failed to capture the true essence of the C7 design. If it actually looks like that, I'll be putting a supercharger on my C6 and waiting for the C8..........
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Tux, I don't understand. When I look at the pic of the C7 my eyes can run from front to back with easy gaze. When I do the same on the ferrari the travel of my eyes is halted by discontinuity before reaching the other end. I am eager to find out the aero specs.
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To me, it looks like the front half came from one car, and the back half from another. To my eyes (without the beer goggles!) the front half is more curvilinear and the back is rectilinear. They just don't seem to fit together as one contiguous design to me, in the way that my '67 and '06 do. My opinion, your results may vary.....
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I think I know what's upsetting people about these "new" design speculations. At least, from my perspective.
From C1 to C2, there was a BIG design change, although the 1962 hinted at the '63's direction, verts still had a trunk, even with the truncated rear. I could go on about the internal/undercarriage changes, but that only "forced" a few (if any) things about the overall exterior design. From C2 to C3, there was a BIG design change, mostly exterior, again. From C3 to C4, there was a BIG design change, inner & outer. From C4 to C5, not so much. From C5 to C6, not so much (although a wee bit more than the C4-C5). From C6 to C7, and the upsetting part (as viewed so far) again, "not so much."
I think, we - or at least me, I'd like another BIG design change, both in & out.
My C5 vert is outstanding for a number of reasons; the fact that's it's a Lemans CE makes the interior nicer than most, even the nicest C6s can't compare favorably, it's painted the best blue color GM has ever come up with, and I've upped the power just enough that wider, stickier tires are now needed to keep from going sideways in the 1st to 2nd WOT gearshift (A4 tranny). So, for me, power isn't an issue (at the moment). There are (a few) things inside my 2012 Toyota Sienna Limited that I wish my Vette had, but nothing I really can't do without, quite nicely. So, before I'd plunk down big bux for a C7 (unless there are BIG changes), I'd plunk down some more bux to enhance my '04 C5 a bit more (specifically, a DD console & a great Nav/DVD/Bluetooth unit). Besides, it's still got only 2,500 miles on it...
(BTW, I've had it exactly a year & and almost doubled the mileage in that time.)
Best regards,
...z
From C1 to C2, there was a BIG design change, although the 1962 hinted at the '63's direction, verts still had a trunk, even with the truncated rear. I could go on about the internal/undercarriage changes, but that only "forced" a few (if any) things about the overall exterior design. From C2 to C3, there was a BIG design change, mostly exterior, again. From C3 to C4, there was a BIG design change, inner & outer. From C4 to C5, not so much. From C5 to C6, not so much (although a wee bit more than the C4-C5). From C6 to C7, and the upsetting part (as viewed so far) again, "not so much."
I think, we - or at least me, I'd like another BIG design change, both in & out.
My C5 vert is outstanding for a number of reasons; the fact that's it's a Lemans CE makes the interior nicer than most, even the nicest C6s can't compare favorably, it's painted the best blue color GM has ever come up with, and I've upped the power just enough that wider, stickier tires are now needed to keep from going sideways in the 1st to 2nd WOT gearshift (A4 tranny). So, for me, power isn't an issue (at the moment). There are (a few) things inside my 2012 Toyota Sienna Limited that I wish my Vette had, but nothing I really can't do without, quite nicely. So, before I'd plunk down big bux for a C7 (unless there are BIG changes), I'd plunk down some more bux to enhance my '04 C5 a bit more (specifically, a DD console & a great Nav/DVD/Bluetooth unit). Besides, it's still got only 2,500 miles on it...
(BTW, I've had it exactly a year & and almost doubled the mileage in that time.)
Best regards,
...z
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