SanDiegoBert

The interiors are quite similar, quality-wise. However, my main objection to the Camaro's interior is the oddball placement of some gauges down by your right knee. This, from the same company that offers a HUD . . .

joshua page

Actually the weight of the 2012 centennial zo6 is 3310, and the zr1 is 3405. 95lbs! Read all about it in the april 2012 road and track. Not motor trend, my bad.(QUOTE=JoesC5;1581080116]2012 ZR1 is 3353 lbs
2012 Z06 is 3199 lbs

154 lbs difference.[/QUOTE]

BlueOx

Frankly, I could care less which car between the ZL1 & GT500 is faster because this is a CORVETTE FORUM. The vast majority of people driving any of these cars is NOT tracking them OR drag racing them.

I have ZERO interest in a Mustang because of many bad Ford experiences and the Mustang looks like a flying brick to me. I was never a big Camaro fan but I do like the new 'Maro's look and even the SS would be WAY fast enough for me.

I love the look, performance, comfort and reliability of my '05 Vette vert. It is an American classic and will be for many years. I will probably wait for the C7 to see if I am interested.

JoesC5

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Who do you believe knows what the curb weight of a Corvette is? Chevrolet or some rag? If you look up the specs on Chevrolet's website you will find that the Grand sport coupe weighs 3330 lbs and the Grand Sport convertible weighs 3311 lbs. Do you really believe the Z06 weighs as much as the steel framed Grand Sport?

http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/p...hure_specs.pdf

LS1LT1

Exactly.
A stock C6 Z06 does not weight 3310 pounds (without driver) LOL.

joshua page

These are the centennial editions. Im sure motor trend weighed the cars. And the weight is not so much the point. My point is, with a race driver driving both cars, the 138 hp vette came took 2nd to a lower horse power car. Performance does not always come down to power. Its about balance. And thank you for focusing on the wrong part of my quote. You should call motortrend and argue with them not me. Cheers=JoesC5;1581105965][/QUOTE]

Who do you believe knows what the curb weight of a Corvette is? Chevrolet or some rag? If you look up the specs on Chevrolet's website you will find that the Grand sport coupe weighs 3330 lbs and the Grand Sport convertible weighs 3311 lbs. Do you really believe the Z06 weighs as much as the steel framed Grand Sport?

http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/p...hure_specs.pdf[/QUOTE]

JoesC5

Who do you believe knows what the curb weight of a Corvette is? Chevrolet or some rag? If you look up the specs on Chevrolet's website you will find that the Grand sport coupe weighs 3330 lbs and the Grand Sport convertible weighs 3311 lbs. Do you really believe the Z06 weighs as much as the steel framed Grand Sport?

http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/p...hure_specs.pdf[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

I didn't raise issue with the other parts of your posting, just the incorrect weight difference between the Z06 and the ZR1. There is one thing about the Internet, someone makes an incorrect post, and unless it is pointed out in a correction post, the incorrect crap becomes "Internet facts" and people, years from now, will think the 95 lb weight difference you quoted is indeed fact.

Here is what the centennial edition consists of on the Z06 and the ZL1.

ZLC NEW! Chevrolet Centennial Special Edition, includes exterior
color (58U) Carbon Flash Metallic and Chevrolet Centennial
Black wheels
1{Z06} - Requires (195) Ebony interior, (38S) Red custom leather stitch,
(RUR) Chevrolet Centennial Black with Red stripe cup style wheels
and (F55) Magnetic Selective Ride Control or (Z07) Z06 Ultimate
Performance Package. (J6F) Red calipers required when (Z07) Z06
Ultimate Performance Package is ordered.
2{ZR1}- Requires (J6F) Red calipers, (195) Ebony interior, (38S) Red
custom leather stitch and (RUR)

The only thing required on the Z06 vs the ZR1 is the addition of either the F55 suspension or the Z07 package. I really doubt that the F55 suspension increases the weight of a Z06 by ~60 lbs and if the car has the Z07 package , it has the lighter brakes(GM says 44 lbs lighter)from the ZR1. That should make the delta between the two, greater, not lessor, as the rag you quoted claims.

PS- if I took on the various rags to correct the mistakes they print, I would have to spend full time doing so, along with an army of helpers.

Guibo

I don't think those "rags" are printing mistakes. Those are just the weights of the cars they measure at that time with those options. There have been independent weighing in the past that place considerable doubt on what some manufacturers (Ferrari, Mercedes) have claimed for their vehicles.

LS1LT1

Yes, that's one of the only reasons why I also tend to 'correct' people on the internet that I feel are mistaken as well. This stuff is archived practically forever and it can confuse the hell out of those that might be searching for this info years later.

jackhall99

What a joke.

gatti-man

If you are trying to say edmunds is more credible than the average youtube or enthusiast review when it comes to sports cars then you sir are the joke.

jimmyb

Now THIS is one helluva thread. 4 pages worth of "audiophile" discussion, 2 pages of the DEFINITION of "audiophile", a couple of pages of speeding on public roads, and 3 pages about the heartbreak of psoriasis (ok, I made that up).

At some point 1.5 weeks ago (when the thread started), the question was raised about the HP needed in the C7. I would love to answer, but since I don't know what the C7 weighs, I don't know what HP will be needed to maintain current performance levels while increasing fuel economy. I DO know the C7 WON'T be AWD.

Jimmy

2K3Z06

What was the question? lol.

The corvette police are always strong on the internet...... blows me away.

When your doing 70mph, 100mph is just a quick jab of the throttle away. whats the big deal. if your not comfortable going that fast on the freeway, then don't.

If you never go above 80, why buy a vette? A camry is your car.


Dreamrak - your avatar is awesome.

jb_va2001

YEEE HAA! Welcome to the internet son. What you sayin'? We in need of some adult supervision round here?

Guibo

I could probably find you some youtube videos that say the moon landing was faked. Doesn't make it so.
Ok, I'll cut the requested number in half: Show me 5 head-to-head tests (preferrably from reputable sources) that show the GT500 is definitively a better car in most areas.

ls2kev

pfff...

Let the Z06 worry about the GT500s. The base coupe will take care of the standard Mustang GTs and below.

Don't forget the 'Vette is lighter and more aerodynamic.

jackhall99

If you believe YouTube or enthusiasts reviews are more credible than a recognized automotive evaluation agency, or any other magazine or rating agency, you are gullible. Nobody can even verify the cars 'reviewed' are stock, nor if the driver's efforts are equal in the cars being driven.

Go buy the Mustang you seem to love so much. It's a nice car. I like Corvettes.

hig4s

Because Camarys corner like crap. It is not all about how fast or how much HP. it is the total performance and feel of the vehicle.

By your logic, or lack of it, a smart car would be too much for anyone that doesn't break the speed limit as they can do 80mph.

Rapid Fred

....eventually

Jinx

So how much is enough for C7, expressed as lbs/hp or hp/ton?