Snip it from May 2012 Motor Trend
#1
Drifting
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Snip it from May 2012 Motor Trend
The rollout for the C7 Corvette will look like this: The standard couple will launch in late 2013 or early '14, with the convertible coming 3 to 6 months later. The ZO6 is next, a full year after the standard coupe. Then comes Gran sport coupe and convertible, with the ZR1 the last of the next gen Corvettes to hit showrooms. Rumor has it that the ZR1 supercharged 6.2 liter V8 will shrink in displacement slightly, for CAFE reasons, and there will be a 3.6 liter V6 version of the base corvette, though not at launch.
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Not sure where Motor Trend is getting it's info but I suppose that it could be correct.
Then again, that time line sounds exactly like the one used for the C6 (minus the V6 thing) as well so either it's dead on accurate or they're just blatantly guessing based on historical precedence LOL.
While on the surface a cheaper, more fuel efficient V6 model makes no sense at all, it could be a way to raise the car's overall CAFE ratings while still allowing us to have the super high performance variants and also keep the factory afloat in times of higher fuel costs.
It could be a direct 370Z/Boxster/Z4/SLK competitor or something.
Then again, that time line sounds exactly like the one used for the C6 (minus the V6 thing) as well so either it's dead on accurate or they're just blatantly guessing based on historical precedence LOL.
While on the surface a cheaper, more fuel efficient V6 model makes no sense at all, it could be a way to raise the car's overall CAFE ratings while still allowing us to have the super high performance variants and also keep the factory afloat in times of higher fuel costs.
It could be a direct 370Z/Boxster/Z4/SLK competitor or something.
#3
Not sure where Motor Trend is getting it's info but I suppose that it could be correct.
Then again, that time line sounds exactly like the one used for the C6 (minus the V6 thing) as well so either it's dead on accurate or they're just blatantly guessing based on historical precedence LOL.
While on the surface a cheaper, more fuel efficient V6 model makes no sense at all, it could be a way to raise the car's overall CAFE ratings while still allowing us to have the super high performance variants and also keep the factory afloat in times of higher fuel costs.
It could be a direct 370Z/Boxster/Z4/SLK competitor or something.
Then again, that time line sounds exactly like the one used for the C6 (minus the V6 thing) as well so either it's dead on accurate or they're just blatantly guessing based on historical precedence LOL.
While on the surface a cheaper, more fuel efficient V6 model makes no sense at all, it could be a way to raise the car's overall CAFE ratings while still allowing us to have the super high performance variants and also keep the factory afloat in times of higher fuel costs.
It could be a direct 370Z/Boxster/Z4/SLK competitor or something.
I would not mind having a base 380hp-400hp DI Turbo 3.6 V6 Priced under $45k
Std V8 potentiality name LS4 5.5? 6.2? would be rated 530hp with base price of $50k
Z06 with LS8 580hp $70k base price
Zr1 with LS10 6.2 supercharged 700hp $110k base price
Im assuming all engines will be DI - and possibly DOD on LS4
eco mode for ZR1
Z06 should be as raw as it can be...whatever GM can get away with..meaning roll bar/cage race derived seating pretty much the GT3 of Corvettes
ZR1 should be the gentleman's cut price hyper car at 700hp Leather everywhere and performance like no other
#4
Melting Slicks
The rollout for the C7 Corvette will look like this: The standard couple will launch in late 2013 or early '14, with the convertible coming 3 to 6 months later. The ZO6 is next, a full year after the standard coupe. Then comes Gran sport coupe and convertible, with the ZR1 the last of the next gen Corvettes to hit showrooms. Rumor has it that the ZR1 supercharged 6.2 liter V8 will shrink in displacement slightly, for CAFE reasons, and there will be a 3.6 liter V6 version of the base corvette, though not at launch.
Personally, I don't believe the CAFE comment. The Z06 & ZR1 sell in such small quantities relative to other GM models it wouldn't impact the corporate average much at all.
Cheers,
JB
#5
The rollout for the C7 Corvette will look like this: The standard couple will launch in late 2013 or early '14, with the convertible coming 3 to 6 months later. The ZO6 is next, a full year after the standard coupe. Then comes Gran sport coupe and convertible, with the ZR1 the last of the next gen Corvettes to hit showrooms. Rumor has it that the ZR1 supercharged 6.2 liter V8 will shrink in displacement slightly, for CAFE reasons, and there will be a 3.6 liter V6 version of the base corvette, though not at launch.
Still it's refreshing although its just a rumor to hear the Z06 will be making a return. Guess the unveiling at the Auto Show next year will decide if I plan to get something in the Spring wait for the C7 base or drive around these company cars and wait for a new C7 Z06 (not sure I can wait that long) it sounds like a refreshing timeline although I'm sure its just hypothesized at best.
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Since it is official that GM is introducing the C7 during the 2nd week of next January at the Detroit show, and the last C6 will be built in March of next year, why would the C7 not hit showrooms until early 2014? makes no sense. Also, I would be surprised if the coupe and vert did not come out at the same time.
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It was stated that GM wants to appeal to a younger audience with the Corvette. Perhaps the V6 version needs further development delaying its release. This could come in at a lower price point which may be what it takes to attract younger buyers.
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With that, I think a C7 with a V6, probably with a turbo, with performance numbers in the same neighborhood or better than a current base C6 V8, and better MPG figures, will not be at a lower price point IMO. I for one am not into turbo engines, just more to worry about. That's what I like most about base Corvettes with a V8....
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I would not mind having a base 380hp-400hp DI Turbo 3.6 V6 Priced under $45k
Std V8 potentiality name LS4 5.5? 6.2? would be rated 530hp with base price of $50k
Z06 with LS8 580hp $70k base price
Zr1 with LS10 6.2 supercharged 700hp $110k base price
Im assuming all engines will be DI - and possibly DOD on LS4
eco mode for ZR1
Z06 should be as raw as it can be...whatever GM can get away with..meaning roll bar/cage race derived seating pretty much the GT3 of Corvettes
ZR1 should be the gentleman's cut price hyper car at 700hp Leather everywhere and performance like no other
Std V8 potentiality name LS4 5.5? 6.2? would be rated 530hp with base price of $50k
Z06 with LS8 580hp $70k base price
Zr1 with LS10 6.2 supercharged 700hp $110k base price
Im assuming all engines will be DI - and possibly DOD on LS4
eco mode for ZR1
Z06 should be as raw as it can be...whatever GM can get away with..meaning roll bar/cage race derived seating pretty much the GT3 of Corvettes
ZR1 should be the gentleman's cut price hyper car at 700hp Leather everywhere and performance like no other
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I have no problem if the V6 has more power than the base V8..... however if they are doing this to lower the MSRP of an entry level Corvette (and it produces less power than the Base-model V8), then I'm not for it.
At all. It's diluting the name, IMO. Hell, maybe they'll stick steel wheels and hubcaps on it. "Introducing the Everyman's Corvette, with a raw 350 hp V6 engine... just watch out for the 2015 Nissan Maxima."
I'm in a college town, and you can't swing a stick without hitting a V6 Mustang (and plenty of V8 'Stangs as well)... I really hope that doesn't happen with the Vette.
Remember this from 1982?
The 4-cylinder Camaro. 2.5L producing 90 hp. But hey, it's a Camaro! A honest-to-goodness real Camaro! Even the 2.8L V-6 Berlinettas could look down their noses at these guys.
At all. It's diluting the name, IMO. Hell, maybe they'll stick steel wheels and hubcaps on it. "Introducing the Everyman's Corvette, with a raw 350 hp V6 engine... just watch out for the 2015 Nissan Maxima."
I'm in a college town, and you can't swing a stick without hitting a V6 Mustang (and plenty of V8 'Stangs as well)... I really hope that doesn't happen with the Vette.
Remember this from 1982?
The 4-cylinder Camaro. 2.5L producing 90 hp. But hey, it's a Camaro! A honest-to-goodness real Camaro! Even the 2.8L V-6 Berlinettas could look down their noses at these guys.
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#12
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"Younger buyer" doesn't mean 20-somethings when your average buyers age is nearly 60. Plenty of 40- and 50-somethings have money for a Corvette, but they've been buying something else.
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Plenty of young people can afford this car they just don't roll in the same circles as most of you.
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Still, I don't see the rationale for a V6 in Corvette for several more years.
.Jinx
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Fun but irrelevant. IIRC the car dropped something like 700 pounds from its predecessor, which in base form was just as pathetic despite having more cylinders. And, most importantly, everything in 1982 sucked. We were coming out of the second energy crisis (with the belief there'd be more to come), we were pretty certain that horsepower was gone for good, and we were damn lucky just to have something that would run.
Still, I don't see the rationale for a V6 in Corvette for several more years.
.Jinx
Still, I don't see the rationale for a V6 in Corvette for several more years.
.Jinx
Right, but a 90 hp 4-cylinder Camaro certainly didn't do much for the Camaro name at the time, and history has not shone brightly on it. It was the joke Camaro. Low power, low cost. If the numbers I read were correct, the 1982 Z28 had 165 hp at the time, and the 1982 Mustang (V8) was around 157 hp. The '82 Corvette had 200 hp. So speaking on relative terms, at the time the pecking order was still intact....
Hell, a 1982 Chevrolet Celebrity and Monte Carlo had more horsepower than the 1982 base Camaro.
If we have a low(er) horsepower Corvette that can keep up with or barely exceed the V6 Mustangs and Camaros, (and get smoked by some family sedans?) ... the name will suffer. And let's face it, the V6 Camaro and Mustangs are no longer slouches. In my mind, the newest base Corvette (whether it's a V6 or V8) should always be able to smoke almost everything else that's new on the road at that time (note I said "almost").
The last thing Corvette needs is a car with less power for the sake of affordability + energy efficiency. I'm not against having a V6, but it should be a kick-*** V6 that has as much (or more) power than the current V8.... or at least be able to keep up.
Again, this is just my opinion.
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We've seen your prior posts about your grandpa and his connections, and some ZR-1 you had in your driveway, and the "family discount" you may forgo to buy a better Mustang, and the big bonus you may get.
Even if you can buy one "the day it comes off the lot", and you better place your order soon or you may get your C7 a day later
We do know what we're talking about. The average age of a Corvette buyer is well into their 50s. GM may build the new car to appeal to some younger drivers. However moving the average down by five years over the next five years would be akin to Moses parting the Red Sea.
Most 25 year old people are paying college costs back, settling into entry level jobs, etc.
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Le Mans Master
BS!
We've seen your prior posts about your grandpa and his connections, and some ZR-1 you had in your driveway, and the "family discount" you may forgo to buy a better Mustang, and the big bonus you may get.
Even if you can buy one "the day it comes off the lot", and you better place your order soon or you may get your C7 a day later
We do know what we're talking about. The average age of a Corvette buyer is well into their 50s. GM may build the new car to appeal to some younger drivers. However moving the average down by five years over the next five years would be akin to Moses parting the Red Sea.
Most 25 year old people are paying college costs back, settling into entry level jobs, etc.
We've seen your prior posts about your grandpa and his connections, and some ZR-1 you had in your driveway, and the "family discount" you may forgo to buy a better Mustang, and the big bonus you may get.
Even if you can buy one "the day it comes off the lot", and you better place your order soon or you may get your C7 a day later
We do know what we're talking about. The average age of a Corvette buyer is well into their 50s. GM may build the new car to appeal to some younger drivers. However moving the average down by five years over the next five years would be akin to Moses parting the Red Sea.
Most 25 year old people are paying college costs back, settling into entry level jobs, etc.
Be careful, my friend, you're about to incite a pissing contest of 20 somethings who will dog pile your post about how many Corvettes, Ferraris, and houses they own.
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Le Mans Master
Take care, and thanks for covering my back.
#20
Le Mans Master
It's Chevrolet's Mustang II, and born of the same fuel panic. We shouldn't single it out as terrible, we should remember it as an example of how terrible everything was in that time.
By contrast, today we're just worried that fuel might get a little more expensive, and cars are more powerful than ever.
Which makes introducing a V6 to Corvette in the near term far worse than that Iron Duke Camaro or that Pinto Mustang.
If we have a low(er) horsepower Corvette that can keep up with or barely exceed the V6 Mustangs and Camaros, (and get smoked by some family sedans?) ... the name will suffer.
But the real problem with the V6 Corvette is that it'll still be a $50,000 car. It won't really weigh less or cost less to build, it'll just deliver slightly improved city mileage.
In my mind, the newest base Corvette (whether it's a V6 or V8) should always be able to smoke almost everything else that's new on the road at that time (note I said "almost").
The last thing Corvette needs is a car with less power for the sake of affordability + energy efficiency.
I'm not against having a V6, but it should be a kick-*** V6 that has as much (or more) power than the current V8.... or at least be able to keep up.
(And please don't let it be the ATS-V. That car needs the C7's base powerplant. It's what GM does best. Seriously, GM, don't blow this one.)
.Jinx