C7 or the new Viper?
04-01-2012, 07:28 AM
#23
Hate to say it here, but I have a feeling I will prefer the Gen V Viper over the C7. I'm hoping the C7 looks very different than what we've seen so far...cause I don't like what I see.
Looks like I'll save my money for a C1-C3 instead.
Looks like I'll save my money for a C1-C3 instead.
04-01-2012, 08:49 PM
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Racer
I have a feeling that the new Viper will look closer to what is seen in the recently seen Hot Wheels version.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11203044...ak/lowphotos#0
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11203044...ak/lowphotos#0
04-01-2012, 09:27 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
Wow, looks great - besides the wheels.
Just IMHO, they have the C7 beat so far if GM doesn't make any changes. The Japolnik pictures have 1 ugly *** camaro rear end. Crossing my fingers GM still has time to change it.
Just IMHO, they have the C7 beat so far if GM doesn't make any changes. The Japolnik pictures have 1 ugly *** camaro rear end. Crossing my fingers GM still has time to change it.
04-01-2012, 09:29 PM
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Burning Brakes
I have a feeling that the new Viper will look closer to what is seen in the recently seen Hot Wheels version.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11203044...ak/lowphotos#0
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11203044...ak/lowphotos#0
Looks just like the old GTS coupe. One of the most gorgeous cars ever put on the road. Dodge went downhill from there.
04-03-2012, 05:17 PM
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04-03-2012, 06:19 PM
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Looks like the Hot Wheel. Same thing happened with the new 1968 Corvette Coupe. The Hot Wheel showed up before the real car.
04-03-2012, 07:24 PM
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Do you think the C7 will still be labeled an "old mans car" ?
No intention in starting a flame war here but in light of putting down a deposit I'm curious as to what some of you think regarding the image the Corvette C7 will portray.
Do you think people in their 20's will still view the vehicle as an "old dudes car?"
I picked up a Car and Driver magazine today and obviously the styling is different but I wonder if its enough to really make it an attractive car to young and mid 20's...
I'm reserving my judgement until January when I check it out in person but now that I have money down I'm starting to seriously wonder what kind of "image" this car is going to portray you don't see alot of people in their mid 20's driving around new Corvettes and I'm curious as to some of your experiences and opinions
Do you think people in their 20's will still view the vehicle as an "old dudes car?"
I picked up a Car and Driver magazine today and obviously the styling is different but I wonder if its enough to really make it an attractive car to young and mid 20's...
I'm reserving my judgement until January when I check it out in person but now that I have money down I'm starting to seriously wonder what kind of "image" this car is going to portray you don't see alot of people in their mid 20's driving around new Corvettes and I'm curious as to some of your experiences and opinions
04-03-2012, 07:42 PM
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.............only by young people who can't afford one and need an excuse................................
04-03-2012, 07:46 PM
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Is that somehow the kind of car that a 17 year old drives?
Not sure where this "Corvette is an old man's car" (while other performance cars that are similarly priced aren't?) label even came from. When I'm at the track or even at car meets I see almost as many 25-30 year olds in late model Corvettes as I do 60+ (not that 60 is even considered 'old' anymore anyway, but that's a different topic LOL) year olds.
Old people drive 4 door Mercury Grand Marquis' and Toyota Avalons (always in a champagne/pewter color LOL), not fast, two seater, low slung, difficult to enter/exit sport cars.
But to answer your question, no, the C7 (like the C6 that came before it) will NOT be, nor be labeled as, an old man's car.
04-03-2012, 07:48 PM
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04-03-2012, 07:49 PM
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No intention in starting a flame war here but in light of putting down a deposit I'm curious as to what some of you think regarding the image the Corvette C7 will portray.
Do you think people in their 20's will still view the vehicle as an "old dudes car?"
I picked up a Car and Driver magazine today and obviously the styling is different but I wonder if its enough to really make it an attractive car to young and mid 20's...
I'm reserving my judgement until January when I check it out in person but now that I have money down I'm starting to seriously wonder what kind of "image" this car is going to portray you don't see alot of people in their mid 20's driving around new Corvettes and I'm curious as to some of your experiences and opinions
Do you think people in their 20's will still view the vehicle as an "old dudes car?"
I picked up a Car and Driver magazine today and obviously the styling is different but I wonder if its enough to really make it an attractive car to young and mid 20's...
I'm reserving my judgement until January when I check it out in person but now that I have money down I'm starting to seriously wonder what kind of "image" this car is going to portray you don't see alot of people in their mid 20's driving around new Corvettes and I'm curious as to some of your experiences and opinions
The C7 has a chance to be wildly successful by hitting all the bargain performance cues and upping the quality a bit without having to up the price noticeably (a couple percent higher price could make the quality issues very minor). It still will not be cheap so that any kid with a few bucks for a down payment can get one.
The reason you won't see many 20-somethings driving Vettes is that, for the vast majority of them, they are either starting families so the Vette is an insane waste of scarce resources, or if single they still aren't making the type of scratch that justifies a $50K+ car. So the whole "old man's" car thing is really a result of GM not aggressively marketing to the tiny demographic of 20-somethings who are loaded -- so they buy 911's, GTR's and the jocks buy Ferraris -- these cars are marketed more to the "glitterati" while Vettes are positioned more as a "reward" for successful regular people who love hot cars.
So if you are fortunate enough to afford a $50K car in your 20's, then ignore the image cr@p and get the car that makes your nerve endings explode. Nothing out there for $50K will do that like a Vette.
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04-03-2012, 08:18 PM
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The good news is when you get some years under your belt you really don't care about the "image" in a car. What you care about is getting what you want, and maybe a little more, as affordably as possible. What other people think has zero impact on how much you enjoy driving and admiring YOUR car.
The C7 has a chance to be wildly successful by hitting all the bargain performance cues and upping the quality a bit without having to up the price noticeably (a couple percent higher price could make the quality issues very minor). It still will not be cheap so that any kid with a few bucks for a down payment can get one.
The reason you won't see many 20-somethings driving Vettes is that, for the vast majority of them, they are either starting families so the Vette is an insane waste of scarce resources, or if single they still aren't making the type of scratch that justifies a $50K+ car. So the whole "old man's" car thing is really a result of GM not aggressively marketing to the tiny demographic of 20-somethings who are loaded -- so they buy 911's, GTR's and the jocks buy Ferraris -- these cars are marketed more to the "glitterati" while Vettes are positioned more as a "reward" for successful regular people who love hot cars.
So if you are fortunate enough to afford a $50K car in your 20's, then ignore the image cr@p and get the car that makes your nerve endings explode. Nothing out there for $50K will do that like a Vette.
The C7 has a chance to be wildly successful by hitting all the bargain performance cues and upping the quality a bit without having to up the price noticeably (a couple percent higher price could make the quality issues very minor). It still will not be cheap so that any kid with a few bucks for a down payment can get one.
The reason you won't see many 20-somethings driving Vettes is that, for the vast majority of them, they are either starting families so the Vette is an insane waste of scarce resources, or if single they still aren't making the type of scratch that justifies a $50K+ car. So the whole "old man's" car thing is really a result of GM not aggressively marketing to the tiny demographic of 20-somethings who are loaded -- so they buy 911's, GTR's and the jocks buy Ferraris -- these cars are marketed more to the "glitterati" while Vettes are positioned more as a "reward" for successful regular people who love hot cars.
So if you are fortunate enough to afford a $50K car in your 20's, then ignore the image cr@p and get the car that makes your nerve endings explode. Nothing out there for $50K will do that like a Vette.
What I'm hoping is that Lingenfelter will be able to tune the base Corvette into something near 3000 lbs curb weight while still giving a GTR or Mercedes AMG "the biggest competition around here are AMGs" a run for their money by upping it to 600+ horsepower.
Basically I want a hybrid something I can drift with but something that will accelerate and impress people even those familiar with performance cars. In addition the prospect of a C7 first year being a collectors item plus the fact that the CTS will be getting replaced in a year and a half as well as the Mustang with new models it makes it a perfect move for me. I want a 2 seater I drive alone and travel alot so the last time I had 3 people in a car was over a year ago.
I also have company cars provided so garaging it from Sept-Oct to the first rain seems attractive as well and will provide a respectable tuner car.
My obvious concern however is the ricer Beamer Benz or Bentley crowd... Is the chick magnet factor even on the top 5 of the things I'm worried about? Not really... I love cars way to much to let that dictate my purchase or I'd just finance a nice AMG this Spring and let it rust as a daily driver but obviously for some reason everything I read says women look at Corvettes with some sort of disdain at least the younger crowd. I'm sure I won't care once I get behind the wheel but yeah it's my first car over 50k and it would be nice for people my own age to respect it past "He's loaded" which I'm not... never understood the whole mindset behind the hate behind young dudes driving Corvettes... is it vain? Sure... but only time will tell...
One thing though is its the perfect price for me to focus on other investments while enjoying a sports car... Hopefully it gets the respect the vehicle deserves though...