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Old 03-16-2012, 09:32 AM
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If I had the $$$$, I would take that 427 Vert in a heartbeat. It looks good and its fast. I wouldn't wait too long to decide. They are probably only going to do a limited run of those 427 verts.
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David,

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pricing, etc. in the next few weeks, but that 2012 Centennial would make for a great trade
Chris, That's what I'm thinking. This one has my fever up.

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1





Well if this video isn't motivation enough to do it, I don't know what is LOL :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vWxi7J0bEI&fmeature=player_embe dded
Not sure what the motivation would be for that. GM can rent a track for a day and pay a driver to run around the track in a helmet but it isn't going to happen for the guys that buy the car. No track group will permit a Vert without a roll bar so the first thing they will have to do is pop for a roll bar. Might as well pop for the Z06 and have a car that can go to the track without issue. Now if you want a show car that you can sit beside in a field and BS everybody about how great it is that is a different issue.

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1





Well if this video isn't motivation enough to do it, I don't know what is LOL :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vWxi...layer_embedded
Aw man...Now I'll be dreaming all day!...
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Not sure what the motivation would be for that. GM can rent a track for a day and pay a driver to run around the track in a helmet but it isn't going to happen for the guys that buy the car. No track group will permit a Vert without a roll bar so the first thing they will have to do is pop for a roll bar. Might as well pop for the Z06 and have a car that can go to the track without issue. Now if you want a show car that you can sit beside in a field and BS everybody about how great it is that is a different issue.

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It depends on the track and the event at Pocono Raceway. My coworker took his GT500 convertible to the track for a Mustang event and he was allowed on the track w/o a rollbar.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Not sure what the motivation would be for that. GM can rent a track for a day and pay a driver to run around the track in a helmet but it isn't going to happen for the guys that buy the car. No track group will permit a Vert without a roll bar so the first thing they will have to do is pop for a roll bar. Might as well pop for the Z06 and have a car that can go to the track without issue. Now if you want a show car that you can sit beside in a field and BS everybody about how great it is that is a different issue.
Good points and true...but my posting that had very little to do with an actual track outing and more to do with passion, aura, visceral impact etc (basically, GM's strong advertising skills LOL ) than anything else.
Please try and see past the concrete, cut & dry black & white of these things and dig a little deeper into the soul and emotional draw of the car.





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It depends on the track and the event at Pocono Raceway. My coworker took his GT500 convertible to the track for a Mustang event and he was allowed on the track w/o a rollbar.
Also true.
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The last 427 went into a vette back around the late 60s/early 70s. The LS7 is a way over bored small block as everyone knows. Calling it a 427 is marketing fluff. It is a small block. However, because it is bored out way more than a small block should be it's not all that reliable ( judging from reports of those who own it ).

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Originally Posted by OregonC6
The last 427 went into a vette back around the late 60s/early 70s.
Calling it a 427 is marketing fluff. It is a small block.

just my opinion

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True, it is not a big block (and I don't think I recall anyone even attempting to claim otherwise).

But no matter how ya slice it, define it, determine it or interpret it, it still is a 427.
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This is the one and only C6 "427" convertible that will be produced. 'Nuff said.
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Chris, That's what I'm thinking. This one has my fever up.



Mike, You're as close as any for Museum Delivery to me. This is one I'd like to consider. Talk to you later,
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I would go for the 427 . It might be the last 427 put in a vette by GM.
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Just guess I will sit back, evaluate, and hopefully see one of these 2013 models soon. Seems to be no pricing yet and that is alway a determining factor for me.

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I have been waiting on the pricing for these as well. I checked in with a local dealer last week and there is still nothing on price. As for mark-up, I'm not sure there will be a great deal of mark-up since they aren't being produced in limited numbers. Most of the advertising pics have have been the 427 Convertible Collector Edition w/the 60th Anniversary Package. What is nice is that you can get a 427 Convertible Collector Edition in any production color!

As for me, I am personally considering a 427 Convertible Collector Edition w/the 60th Anniversary Package.
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Originally Posted by OregonC6
The last 427 went into a vette back around the late 60s/early 70s. The LS7 is a way over bored small block as everyone knows. Calling it a 427 is marketing fluff. It is a small block. However, because it is bored out way more than a small block should be it's not all that reliable ( judging from reports of those who own it ).

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Does the LS7 displace 427 cubic inches? Then it's a "427". Wishing for a huge block of engine hanging over the front end and totally screwing the handling because of the one ton big blocks of the late 1960's is silly. Go drive an old big block corvette verses a small block:
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Not sure what the motivation would be for that. GM can rent a track for a day and pay a driver to run around the track in a helmet but it isn't going to happen for the guys that buy the car. No track group will permit a Vert without a roll bar so the first thing they will have to do is pop for a roll bar. Might as well pop for the Z06 and have a car that can go to the track without issue. Now if you want a show car that you can sit beside in a field and BS everybody about how great it is that is a different issue.

Bill

Ouch! ... but true, haha. You do have to admit Chevy is doing a pretty good job of offering something for everyone - The light aluminum-frame Z06 for the maximum performance and track guys, the sexy but heavy steel-frame 427 convertible for the criuse and show guys, and soon the more contemporary looking C7 to appeal to the younger buyers that are needed as we continue to age and stop buying Corvettes.

The guys here who prefer the traditional Corvette shapes would do well to consider the last 427, the C7 will be there for a while.

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1





Well if this video isn't motivation enough to do it, I don't know what is LOL :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vWxi...layer_embedded

Cool video. The pipes sound great as the video ends with the automatic transmission shifting (but the 427 is manual transmission only)


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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Not sure what the motivation would be for that. GM can rent a track for a day and pay a driver to run around the track in a helmet but it isn't going to happen for the guys that buy the car. No track group will permit a Vert without a roll bar so the first thing they will have to do is pop for a roll bar. Might as well pop for the Z06 and have a car that can go to the track without issue. Now if you want a show car that you can sit beside in a field and BS everybody about how great it is that is a different issue.

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Very true but there are venues that will allow you to drive a convertible on the track at high speeds without a roll bar. Talladega for one(Vettes4Vets) and Texas motor Speedway(Lonestar Corvette Classic). These are "pace car" led laps but I hit 140 MPH in my C5 at Texas(1.5 mile track) and 162 MPH in my C6 Z06 at Talladega(2.5 mile track). A friend hit 151 MPH in his 2009 C6 vert at Talledega last year. Many were running 140 MPH in their verts.

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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Does the LS7 displace 427 cubic inches? Then it's a "427". Wishing for a huge block of engine hanging over the front end and totally screwing the handling because of the one ton big blocks of the late 1960's is silly. Go drive an old big block corvette verses a small block:
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The LS7 427 is a small block with the 4.4" bore centers just like the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6, LS9 and all the small blocks made since 1955. For your information the LS7 weighs 10 pounds more then a LS3.

As the 427 Convertable has CF front fenders and a CF hood that save much more then 10 pounds in weight, it's very likely that the weight on the front of the car is equal to or less then the weight of a base C6 convertible with the LS3

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You will most likely never see a big cube engine ever again due to CAFE, environmental issues, political correctness, etc. If you want one of the last of its kind then get a 2013 LS7 roadster. I am confident the C7 will have high horsepower performance in several configurations but it will most likely come from smaller displacement direct injected force fed engines.


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