C7, Meet the Ferrari 620 GT
02-24-2012, 01:32 PM
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Drifting
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C7, Meet the Ferrari 620 GT
As many people have compared the (rumored) C7 to the 599, here's what the C7 will actually have to compete with in the realms of styling and performance.
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We're about five days away from when Ferrari will officially unveil the F620 GT, the front-engine/rear-drive V12-powered successor to its 599 GTB. As usual, the Internet can't wait.
An image of the F620 GT was published today on GTSpirit.com, who claims it was sent to them by a reader. The timing was fortuitous, as we also have an image of the F620 GT, supplied to us by sources who have seen the car in person. While not an official rendering of the F620 GT from Ferrari, it's the best look yet at what will be unveiled on February 29.
Our friends at eGarage.com were also nice enough to provide some specs, which come directly from Ferrari. The F620 GT's 6.3-liter V12 will produce 740 horsepower and 690 pound-feet of torque, making it the most powerful twelve-cylinder engine ever made by Ferrari. With a redline of 8,700 rpm, this powerplant will move the Italian grand tourer to 60 miles per hour in 3.1 seconds and 100 mph in 8.3 seconds. It's also lighter, lower and shorter than the 599 it's replacing.
With five days still left to go before Ferrari officially debuts the F620 GT, expect the Internet to continue digging.
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We're about five days away from when Ferrari will officially unveil the F620 GT, the front-engine/rear-drive V12-powered successor to its 599 GTB. As usual, the Internet can't wait.
An image of the F620 GT was published today on GTSpirit.com, who claims it was sent to them by a reader. The timing was fortuitous, as we also have an image of the F620 GT, supplied to us by sources who have seen the car in person. While not an official rendering of the F620 GT from Ferrari, it's the best look yet at what will be unveiled on February 29.
Our friends at eGarage.com were also nice enough to provide some specs, which come directly from Ferrari. The F620 GT's 6.3-liter V12 will produce 740 horsepower and 690 pound-feet of torque, making it the most powerful twelve-cylinder engine ever made by Ferrari. With a redline of 8,700 rpm, this powerplant will move the Italian grand tourer to 60 miles per hour in 3.1 seconds and 100 mph in 8.3 seconds. It's also lighter, lower and shorter than the 599 it's replacing.
With five days still left to go before Ferrari officially debuts the F620 GT, expect the Internet to continue digging.
02-24-2012, 02:32 PM
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From the Jalopnik renders, the 'Vette is almost completely derivative of other automobiles - if those renders are the real thing, then let it be know that (IMHO), the C6 is the most beautiful Corvette ever made, and that we've seen the end of Corvette "heritage" in in this new gen of Vettes.
Process Black, seems to me I read a while back that Chevy was going to drop the base model Vette (coupe), and offer the Grand Sport as the base model - would this be true of C7's?
Process Black, seems to me I read a while back that Chevy was going to drop the base model Vette (coupe), and offer the Grand Sport as the base model - would this be true of C7's?
02-24-2012, 02:56 PM
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Team Owner
While I don't really care much for the top photo/rendering (due to all of shadows/lighting perhaps?) that 2nd photo of it looks VERY nice. 
I think the 599 is pretty good looking but this 620 replacement does look even better in my opinion.
Possibly. I can't see them doing that based solely on the whole 'entry level/low MSRP' price point/bragging rights thing (ie: a jazzed up GS base model just has to cost more etc.).
It could move the Corvette line more 'upmarket' as some have been suggesting recently but making a GS type model as standard/base also removes another means of generating more revenue (options/option packages are profitable) so I just can't see that happening.
I think the 599 is pretty good looking but this 620 replacement does look even better in my opinion.
From the Jalopnik renders, the 'Vette is almost completely derivative of other automobiles - if those renders are the real thing, then let it be know that (IMHO), the C6 is the most beautiful Corvette ever made, and that we've seen the end of Corvette "heritage" in in this new gen of Vettes.
It could move the Corvette line more 'upmarket' as some have been suggesting recently but making a GS type model as standard/base also removes another means of generating more revenue (options/option packages are profitable) so I just can't see that happening.
02-24-2012, 03:47 PM
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Le Mans Master
02-24-2012, 03:57 PM
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Team Owner
They could but they want the engine to last 100K+ miles. They also don't want the engine to cost tens of thousands of dollars to produce. None of those things are possible with those restrictions. Ferrari doesn't care about those things and neither do their owners.
Last edited by chaase; 02-24-2012 at 03:59 PM.
02-24-2012, 03:57 PM
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Team Owner
The LS3 is of course 6.2L but I remember before the LS3 came out that there was talk of a 6.3L or 6.4L which I would love to see happen for the base C7.And also, the 620's 12 (each being smaller) cylinders, 48 valves and 4 cams might play a small role as well LOL.
02-24-2012, 03:58 PM
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02-24-2012, 04:59 PM
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Le Mans Master
Because GM's 6.2L cam-in-block V8 is actually much smaller and lighter weight than Ferrari's DOHC V12.
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
.Jinx
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
.Jinx
02-24-2012, 05:23 PM
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Le Mans Master
Because GM's 6.2L cam-in-block V8 is actually much smaller and lighter weight than Ferrari's DOHC V12.
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
.Jinx
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
.Jinx
Even the OP's lack of knowledge of what "competition" amazes me. A $250,000 +- car is NOT competition to a $50K or $110K Corvette.
02-24-2012, 05:23 PM
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Team Owner
Because GM's 6.2L cam-in-block V8 is actually much smaller and lighter weight than Ferrari's DOHC V12.
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
These engines are not the same size.
Compare engines by total mass or package volume. Compare by fuel efficiency (work per unit of fuel consumed). Compare by area under the power curve rather than peak horsepower while you're at it. There are so many other more significant variables in engine design that displacement is damn near irrelevant.
Neither this Ferrari nor it's motor are exactly light/compact, and those cars are certainly NOT at all fuel efficient like a Corvette is.They do have some nice leather though LOL.
02-24-2012, 05:28 PM
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Team Owner
But $250k?! The prospective buyers of this new 620 can only DREAM of paying that little for it initially. That car will likely command $450k+ 
during the first six months/year after it's release LOL.I just hope it actually delivers $450k+ worth of enjoyment for them.
02-24-2012, 05:57 PM
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Drifting
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The fact that the Corvette costs half to a fifth of the price is a huge advantage and makes it an instant win.
Granted the base model car may not have the same level of performance, but the ZR1/Z06 models will.
The Ferrari 599 GTB has a ring time of 7:47.
C6 Z06's, 7:22.68.
C6 ZR1's, 7:19.63.
So, as shown, price of the Ferrari is nothing more then ego fuel for the owner of a ferrari, until he is passed by a Corvette that I bought using saved beer money.
Do those numbers "amaze" you too?
02-24-2012, 08:22 PM
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Le Mans Master
In typical Ferrari fashion, the series is probably spoken for already to established Ferrari men. Being on that list and having one for a year or so is their enjoyment.
02-24-2012, 08:32 PM
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Le Mans Master
Both are mid-engined front/RWD, both share an overall GT body shape and stance, and both appeal to drivers who want the comfort of a touring car and the performance of a track-ready racer.
The fact that the Corvette costs half to a fifth of the price is a huge advantage and makes it an instant win.
Granted the base model car may not have the same level of performance, but the ZR1/Z06 models will.
The Ferrari 599 GTB has a ring time of 7:47.
C6 Z06's, 7:22.68.
C6 ZR1's, 7:19.63.
So, as shown, price of the Ferrari is nothing more then ego fuel for the owner of a ferrari, until he is passed by a Corvette that I bought using saved beer money.
Do those numbers "amaze" you too?
The fact that the Corvette costs half to a fifth of the price is a huge advantage and makes it an instant win.
Granted the base model car may not have the same level of performance, but the ZR1/Z06 models will.
The Ferrari 599 GTB has a ring time of 7:47.
C6 Z06's, 7:22.68.
C6 ZR1's, 7:19.63.
So, as shown, price of the Ferrari is nothing more then ego fuel for the owner of a ferrari, until he is passed by a Corvette that I bought using saved beer money.
Do those numbers "amaze" you too?
I KNOW what the Ferrari's performance is, as well as the different 'vette models. Styling is subjective. While you did state "styling and performance", you also used the term "compete with". That's what I questioned.
The Ferrari is NOT competition to the Corvette. They are in completely different market segments.
No argument here; just the choice of your words "here's what the C7 will actually have to compete with" amazed me.
02-25-2012, 10:22 AM
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The fact that the Corvette costs half to a fifth of the price is a huge advantage and makes it an instant win.
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So, as shown, price of the Ferrari is nothing more then ego fuel for the owner of a ferrari, until he is passed by a Corvette that I bought using saved beer money.
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So, as shown, price of the Ferrari is nothing more then ego fuel for the owner of a ferrari, until he is passed by a Corvette that I bought using saved beer money.
To them, that's not the point. Yes, they love performance, no doubt. They spend 4x more for high-end Ferraris because they love the racing heritage, the sound of a hand-made Italian V8 (or 12), the mystique around the brand...and sure, it has a prancing horse.
That being said, many Ferrari owners also have and love Corvettes. Others would never be caught driving a Chevy.
It's all good either way. What they like or don't like doesn't impact me, and vice-versa.
02-25-2012, 10:32 AM
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Racer
I've spent a fair amount of time reading ferrarichat.com over the years, and my impression is that many (if not most) Ferrari owners don't care that Corvettes are faster.
To them, that's not the point. Yes, they love performance, no doubt. They spend 4x more for high-end Ferraris because they love the racing heritage, the sound of a hand-made Italian V8 (or 12), the mystique around the brand...and sure, it has a prancing horse.
That being said, many Ferrari owners also have and love Corvettes. Others would never be caught driving a Chevy.
It's all good either way. What they like or don't like doesn't impact me, and vice-versa.
To them, that's not the point. Yes, they love performance, no doubt. They spend 4x more for high-end Ferraris because they love the racing heritage, the sound of a hand-made Italian V8 (or 12), the mystique around the brand...and sure, it has a prancing horse.
That being said, many Ferrari owners also have and love Corvettes. Others would never be caught driving a Chevy.
It's all good either way. What they like or don't like doesn't impact me, and vice-versa.
02-25-2012, 03:12 PM
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Melting Slicks
it will not be a $250K car...it will be more like $400K.
That said, if I could afford it, I'd be on the (long) list--oh wait I have to first buy another Ferrari to get on that list
