will there ever be a mid-engine supercar?
#83
Le Mans Master
I agree i will not call this car other than looking great
I like this 70`s mid engine prototype
And now i know where the 78 pace car wheels came from(look at the picture)
Well first on a very few 1973 Corvettes
I like this 70`s mid engine prototype
And now i know where the 78 pace car wheels came from(look at the picture)
Well first on a very few 1973 Corvettes
Last edited by TheSaint; 02-22-2012 at 03:48 PM.
#84
Le Mans Master
That is the XP-882 from 1970, a design in which Zora combined a Chevrolet 454 V8 with the Toronado’s FWD transaxle. I understand the powertrain weighed almost a thousand pounds. It was killed!
#88
Pro
ever tried to turn in a mid engine car hard on the brakes? Sure you can tune it out in the suspension/chassis setup but, at what cost?
do corvettes have a higher corner entry speed over mid engines?
old technology....... isnt the genius in something seen in the simplicity of the design
do corvettes have a higher corner entry speed over mid engines?
old technology....... isnt the genius in something seen in the simplicity of the design
#89
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Depends on the driver, but I would say no, unless he doesn't brake hard enough and does not exit the corner in the intended direction . The way that cars like a Loutus Elise beat a car like the Corvette on a tight course is to carry more speed through the corners. Higher entry and higher exit speeds.
#90
Le Mans Master
Technically correct if you are auto-crossing. Hell, a Miata will come within a couple of seconds to track-only Z06 Corvettes at Tire Rack's South Bend, IN track! And a 1960 Lotus Seven, or any modern variant e.g. Caterham will beat any Corvette going at the same track.
Both are front engined, so rear mid has little to do with it, although an Elise will win there also.
Most road courses, however, are 2.5 to 4 miles long and the Corvette (all driving capabilities being equal) will beat the Lotus Elise, using your specific example.
#91
Le Mans Master
I do really think there is a reason that Formula 1 cars have the engine placed where it is
The same goes for all Formula classes as well as the US Indycar
So does it better cornering performance? Yes
The same goes for all Formula classes as well as the US Indycar
So does it better cornering performance? Yes
#92
Le Mans Master
A) the lower polar moment means that the car will accelerate in yaw faster, so less steering input is needed to turn the car in.
B) the better weight balance F/R means that prior to the application of throttle, the mid-engined car is inherently better balanced.
C) after the application of throttle, the mid-engined car has more lateral and longitudinal traction
D) if the car starts to get away from the driver, smaller steering inputs are required to bringthe car back on line. {low polar moment again}
{All else being equal}
E) The faster responce to steering also comes with faster responce to outside influences creating steering effects on the car {wind, bumps, sand, oil} creating the need for the driver to respond SOONER or the car will have entered a spin before the driver could react.
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#96
Team Owner
I would be in total shock and completely in awe of GM/Chevrolet if the 7th generation Corvette comes out as a mid engined car.
But I have to say that I find it quite unlikely (I'd almost bet big money on it not happening).
But I have to say that I find it quite unlikely (I'd almost bet big money on it not happening).
#97
Safety Car
I did a feasibility study on the C5 to make it into a mid engine car. It can be done but the existing chassis was weak in bending if the engine were placed in front of the existing 6 speed. The C6 would present the same problem. The wheelbase is too long to place the engine literally in the middle.
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The Caddy Cein chassis would be easy to put into production with a Corvette body and badges.
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The Caddy Cein chassis would be easy to put into production with a Corvette body and badges.