[Z06] what will 2" headers and more compression do for me? Need more cubes for 9s?
#1
what will 2" headers and more compression do for me? Need more cubes for 9s?
my goal has been to run 9s.. I know a blower would be a quick trick but I hate the problems a blower brings..
it would be nice to run 9s n/a with a stick..
Ive gone 10.55..136.5mph in the heat w/ 1.65 60' and 17" bias ply slicks..604rwhp. car made 612/565 stock compresison. I know with better weather and a great launch I can go 10.2-10.3..
Current performance mods:
lg x4 cam
wcc st.2 heads STOCK compression
ported fast102/102nw tb
halltech
iw 10% underdrive balancer
mantic9000
kooks 1 7/8"
offroad 3" pipe
npp mufflers
thinking about doing the following to get closer to my goal:
bump in compression
2" headers
2step
15" rear wheel setup w/ lg spindle kit/c5brakes
race gas tune
meth kit?
how much would a bump in compression and 2" headers yield me? trying to figure out if itll be enough to go 9s, or if I need more cubic inches..? I would do the c6 diff with 3.90 gears but the gears are on backorder till god knows when
it would be nice to run 9s n/a with a stick..
Ive gone 10.55..136.5mph in the heat w/ 1.65 60' and 17" bias ply slicks..604rwhp. car made 612/565 stock compresison. I know with better weather and a great launch I can go 10.2-10.3..
Current performance mods:
lg x4 cam
wcc st.2 heads STOCK compression
ported fast102/102nw tb
halltech
iw 10% underdrive balancer
mantic9000
kooks 1 7/8"
offroad 3" pipe
npp mufflers
thinking about doing the following to get closer to my goal:
bump in compression
2" headers
2step
15" rear wheel setup w/ lg spindle kit/c5brakes
race gas tune
meth kit?
how much would a bump in compression and 2" headers yield me? trying to figure out if itll be enough to go 9s, or if I need more cubic inches..? I would do the c6 diff with 3.90 gears but the gears are on backorder till god knows when
Last edited by TT32VGT; 07-20-2014 at 01:43 AM.
#2
2 step, more seat time and pray the driveline holds up. Get it down to a 1.3 60' on the two step and in good weather that might be enough for a 9.9x. Bump in the compression and meth would further help.
#4
I like nitrous, its fairly simple to hook up ,no plumbing issues like turbos ,doesn't affect the gas mileage like super chargers or add lot of weight. For drag racing its great ,I'm not sure I can do the texas mile on it but for street racing it's hard to beat.
#6
2" headers or too large for an NA setup. I am currently running them on my ERL 434, and although I don't have a comparison with them on my new cam setup, on my old cam they cost me both HP and torque. The 3.90 gear would help, but the easiest way to get into the 9's would be Nitrous, as the BB mentioned above. I just installed a plate kit, and took my first test hit with it yesterday. It's a game changer.
Also, compression will help throttle response, and add a very small amount HP.
Also, compression will help throttle response, and add a very small amount HP.
#7
Drifting
You have another .25 left in your 60' time which would probably get you there. I don't think the 15" setup is going to give you what you want.
Play with tire pressure and heat in the tires and get your 60' to atleast a 1.5 and then drop the stock axle back as suggested above. I think you'll be there on the current setup. If not try out a 100 shot to really get down the blacktop.
Play with tire pressure and heat in the tires and get your 60' to atleast a 1.5 and then drop the stock axle back as suggested above. I think you'll be there on the current setup. If not try out a 100 shot to really get down the blacktop.
#8
WEIGHT...gotta remove weight. Things you can do is slicks and skinnies (this is big because you are getting rid of rotating mass), remove the stock mufflers and take out the passenger seat.
100#'s less is 1 ten.
1.65 60' aint no joke in a IRS car.
100#'s less is 1 ten.
1.65 60' aint no joke in a IRS car.
#9
Safety Car
My car pics up almost 2 mph removing the mufflers
2 step will blow up the mufflers. You need to drive the car, and your times will come around.
You don't need 15 inch wheel/slick combo. I cut 1.40 on 17inch 315 drag radials
2 step will blow up the mufflers. You need to drive the car, and your times will come around.
You don't need 15 inch wheel/slick combo. I cut 1.40 on 17inch 315 drag radials
#10
Thanks for the posts guys!! really appreciate it. ill keep at it, with my current setup and not change anything..
was really thinking of adding a 100 or 125 shot like you guys were saying..
best 60' so far was 1.595 but I know it needs to be lower.
Im running 18x6 and 17x11 weld rts so I guess theres a good bit of weight savings right there..
Taking off the mufflers sounds like a good idea, I usually remove the swaybar.. I havent personally removed the mufflers before, is it a fairly easy job? Ive got a lift/impact/etc. Car doesnt need to be retuned Im sure..
thanks again!
was really thinking of adding a 100 or 125 shot like you guys were saying..
best 60' so far was 1.595 but I know it needs to be lower.
Im running 18x6 and 17x11 weld rts so I guess theres a good bit of weight savings right there..
Taking off the mufflers sounds like a good idea, I usually remove the swaybar.. I havent personally removed the mufflers before, is it a fairly easy job? Ive got a lift/impact/etc. Car doesnt need to be retuned Im sure..
thanks again!
#11
Drifting
Weight reduction will help a little for sure. The easiest place to remove weight is, unfortunately, in the rear. A Shorai battery will be worth around 30 pounds and is probably the best bang for the buck weight reduction out there. If you remove the entire catback, have some 3" by about 16" collector extensions made up. They will give you back some mid-range torque with very little weight. If you remove the swaybars, be sure to remove both and not just the front bar. That would make the car pretty loose if you were to get a little out of shape. Surprisingly, the bars, brackets, bolts and endlinks only weigh about 21 pounds but every little bit helps. Also, look at removing the windshield washer tank. If it is full, it weighs around 14 pounds. If you temporarily remove the windshield wiper motor and mechanism, it is worth around 10 pounds and pops in and out in about 10 minutes. Just pop off the nylon ball joint connectors. For the best ET gain, traction is your best friend.
Gary
Gary
Last edited by 40YRW8; 07-22-2014 at 03:48 PM.
#13
Melting Slicks
Stick with 1-7/8" headers as mentioned earlier by 427ZM
- add 3-1/2" merge collectors to your headers
- 3-1/2" exhaust through an X-pipe (even if you have to go oval for clearance)
- 1 point bump in compression w/0.040" head gasket
- Electric Water pump
- Re-tune based on the above changes
#14
Drifting
Id swear I cut .05 off with lighter front rotors...16 lb vs 26 stock z06 saving 20 lbs..rears can take another 11 ibs off...Meth got me 17rwhp with timing,,When I go now to track atco nj I show up with 2 gal 93 and put 2 gal 104 and I have 75 percent meth and ice in tank..Also ive learned to shift higher like say 7,000 rpms. I am like u no good at launching lol..Lighter clutch? 4.10 gears...line lock?
#15
Drifting
Stick with 1-7/8" headers as mentioned earlier by 427ZM
- add 3-1/2" merge collectors to your headers
- 3-1/2" exhaust through an X-pipe (even if you have to go oval for clearance)
- 1 point bump in compression w/0.040" head gasket
- Electric Water pump
- Re-tune based on the above changes
#16
Melting Slicks
2" headers or too large for an NA setup. I am currently running them on my ERL 434, and although I don't have a comparison with them on my new cam setup, on my old cam they cost me both HP and torque. The 3.90 gear would help, but the easiest way to get into the 9's would be Nitrous, as the BB mentioned above. I just installed a plate kit, and took my first test hit with it yesterday. It's a game changer.
Also, compression will help throttle response, and add a very small amount HP.
Also, compression will help throttle response, and add a very small amount HP.
#17
Racer
I recently switched from LG 1 7/8" headers on my 447ci to a set of ARH 2" headers....I'll be curious to see the results. My car is a nitrous car as well though, so while it may only make 6xx on motor, it will be making 8xx on spray, do you think the 2" will hurt my performance? Just curious as to your thoughts on that.
Is your car done yet?
#18
Melting Slicks
Could you tell more about merge and head idea?
what cost?
As for the heads.....typically on the LS7 head you mill 0.006" to reduce combustion chamber volume by 1 cc and you want to reduce 6cc's to raise compression by 1 point when you use an 0.040" gasket (in lieu of the OEM 0.051") so you'd mill the heads 6 x 0.006" = 0.036" to obtain 64cc's from the OEM 70cc's to go up 1 full point of compression. Cost varies for this but typically can be done in the $500 range.
And if you want to see what a "true high performance" street/strip triple stepped header 4" exhaust system" (w/3-1/2" tailpipes) looks like here is my LS7 set-up mentioned above on my 680RWHP '88 Monte SS:
Last edited by JMB; 07-23-2014 at 12:27 AM.
#19
Melting Slicks
#20
Le Mans Master