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[Z06] Maybe The PRC Heads Are NOT The Answer To Guide Wear

Old 10-03-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDingo
Wow. So aftermarket rockers can't be the culprit for this one.

Who's to say the WCCH heads with stock rockers can't wear, too?
They have.
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
[....] He is being told that having the lifter preload at ~1.25 turns on the rocker bolts caused the issue so they are not standing behind anything.
Well that's interesting <cough>....

.... Andy, did they say what the preload should be set at?
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:09 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. Mine are at 1.5 turns. 6k miles, no noises, nothing strange here so far in my PRC285ccs. Ti valves, .650 PRC dual springs.

If I ever have to swap heads I would probably just throw some TF 255 heads on it and swap to ls3 rockers/intake.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:23 PM
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What's the issue with the stock rockers on the WCCH heads?
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark200X
Well that's interesting <cough>....

.... Andy, did they say what the preload should be set at?
They said .75-1.0 max. I have always used 1.25-1.5 on all builds (stock and aftermarket) and we've never had an issue. I spoke with a few local performance shops this morning regarding preload and they all agree with 1.25-1.50 turns.

Even at 1.5-2.0 turns, I can't see that changing the valvetrain geometry and causing .016" of guide wear in 7,000 miles

Originally Posted by Unreal
I was wondering the same thing. Mine are at 1.5 turns. 6k miles, no noises, nothing strange here so far in my PRC285ccs. Ti valves, .650 PRC dual springs.

If I ever have to swap heads I would probably just throw some TF 255 heads on it and swap to ls3 rockers/intake.
1.5 has always been the standard as far as I know.

Our Katech 427 with WCCH heads is setup at 1.5 and after 3 years of solid abuse and racing there are no issues.
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The OP used stainless intake valves also? What was the reasoning behind that? I thought the common practice was to use OEM intake valves or new titanium valves. Just curious. Sorry if its a noob question. They should back up their heads. Many of us have their products....myself included.
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Originally Posted by Svre46
The OP used stainless intake valves also? What was the reasoning behind that? I thought the common practice was to use OEM intake valves or new titanium valves. Just curious. Sorry if its a noob question. They should back up their heads. Many of us have their products....myself included.
Price? They are $600 less.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Price? They are $600 less.
Looking at his car I did not think $600 would be the reason. I was wondering from an engineering perspective if he felt there was a benefit to them vs OEM/Titanium. In my case i reused my intake valves for weight savings.

Sucks.

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Old 10-03-2013, 02:34 PM
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was OP still revving to 7000 rpms with SS intake valves?
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I also question why he went with the heavier SS intakes. I went with their Ti intakes. Sure hope I didn't make mistake when I decided to go with the PRC265's.
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Originally Posted by erichg1000
was OP still revving to 7000 rpms with SS intake valves?
Makes me curious too. Hydraulic roller or solid?

Was there any check or sign of valve float with the heavier intake valves?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I also question why he went with the heavier SS intakes. I went with their Ti intakes. Sure hope I didn't make mistake when I decided to go with the PRC265's.
I thought of your setup right away. Might want to get inspected just to be safe. sucks.....
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Originally Posted by Svre46
The OP used stainless intake valves also? What was the reasoning behind that? I thought the common practice was to use OEM intake valves or new titanium valves. Just curious. Sorry if its a noob question. They should back up their heads. Many of us have their products....myself included.
They were aftermarket heads.

So they came with new intake and exhaust valves.

Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
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Our Katech 427 with WCCH heads is setup at 1.5 and after 3 years of solid abuse and racing there are no issues.
Your heads have SS valves and bronze guides, right?
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:46 PM
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I'm assuming the car is cammed?
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Can someone explain the lifter preload and rocker bolts to me? Where and when is this calibrated? I think I misunderstood something.
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I decided I will have my car inspected each year at my speed shop. My first inspection will be in April of 2014 (1 year mod anniversary and snow melts). I will keep everyone posted here of course.
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Interesting that the exhaust is within spec but the intake is so far out of wack.

I'm curious to know what is the weight of the SS intake valves is compared to the Ti? The delta from OEM for intakes should be much higher than the smaller exhausts.
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Originally Posted by erichg1000
was OP still revving to 7000 rpms with SS intake valves?
No, this is a show/street car. I doubt that Andy has ever approached 7k RPM. Half of the miles on the car since the heads were installed was a 3,500 miles road trip last month with other members of his Corvette club.

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They were aftermarket heads.

So they came with new intake and exhaust valves.



Your heads have SS valves and bronze guides, right?
Yes, I have bronze guides and stainless exhaust valves, but we are looking at the intake wear in this example. I have stock intake valves and Andy has the stainless valves in this particular set.
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
They were aftermarket heads.
So they came with new intake and exhaust valves.
I understand that. I knew they offered titanium intake w/ stainless exhaust valves also. The stainless intake would obviously be heavier where as the OEM and aftermarket titanium would be a similar weight. Most people on this forum as far as I know do not run stainless intake valves. They run OEM or aftermarket titanium intake valves. PRC re-worked a few buddies’ cars. They were able to use OEM valves in their case.

Basically I am questioning the use of stainless intake valves vs. the "fix" of just using stainless exhaust valves. Since his intake guides were so out of wack was the valve behind it? I’ll stay subscribed and hopefully someone will get to the bottom of it though I doubt it. Seems like we are just going in an endless circle.
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The fact that it's intake only would make me think it's a valve weight issue. Or too aggressive of a cam for that weight valve?
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