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Old 02-17-2013, 07:09 PM
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Default Valve Train Sound Test: WCCH vs Stock Heads

Well today my buddy Rich came over to check out how my WCCH heads (SS valves/dual springs/CHE rockers) sounded compared to his stock 2011 Z06.

I took some video. And he used a sound meter.

We compared cars in the same spot of my garage one right after. He tested from 5 locations around the perimeter of the motor as well as inside the cabin with the windows up. Testing was done at idle and at 2K RPM. Again, for consistency, I did my best to hold both motors at level rpm during that testing. I can tell you there is some variance as its impossible to hold rpm perfectly at 2K. We also both had our frc's off and both engines were completely warmed after driving.

I was supposed to get my CAT replaced yesterday but that didn't happen. I have a confirmed leak in the driver CAT so not sure if that can be heard or contributed sound levels.

My impression is that the stock motor is quieter but both have the same overall valve train component sounds. Rich can give his feed back on this.


STOCK IDLE


STOCK 2K RPM


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WCCH 2K RPM


WCCH HOOD DOWN (sorry this did not come out for stock)




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Looking forward to the results!
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:32 PM
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Okay, I got all the videos uploaded.

Not sure when Rich will get the DB data posted.


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Sounds good to me Howie.
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Weird, to my ear the stock one sounds like it has less of a tick tick than the WCCH version.
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nice comparison howie! too bad ive had too much to drink to hear the difference!!!!!
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Here is the trabulated data:



Some representative examples;



Notes:
Meter used was a Radio Shack Sound Level Meter cat. no.33-200. Decibels are measured as a logarithmic unit (powers of 10) If you want to read more, go here : http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/u11l2b.cfm.
To keep it simple, an increase of 3 db doubles the level. The hearing threshold (silence) is 0 db.

Positions 1-5 were such that the meter micro phone was right at the edge of the engine compartment, pointing toward the center of the engine. Meter was placed on a piece of dense foam to isolate from any extraneous frequencies.
*Position 6 was in the driver’s seat and was very subjective, i.e. the meter reading varied significantly depending on where it was held.
"C" weighting covers 32-10k Hz; "A" weighting covers 500-10k Hz. This means you cut out a lot of low frequencies using "A" weighting. All measurements were made using "C" weighting except for additional interior samples to remove predominantly lower freqs present in the interior (notice the drastic difference between C and A weighting).

My personal impression: The new heads are louder, but not buy a significant amount. With the hood closed you could hardly tell a difference between the two vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Minkster
Here is the trabulated data:



Some representative examples;



Notes:
Meter used was a Radio Shack Sound Level Meter cat. no.33-200. Decibels are measured as a logarithmic unit (powers of 10) If you want to read more, go here : http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/u11l2b.cfm.
To keep it simple, an increase of 3 db doubles the level. The hearing threshold (silence) is 0 db.

Positions 1-5 were such that the meter micro phone was right at the edge of the engine compartment, pointing toward the center of the engine. Meter was placed on a piece of dense foam to isolate from any extraneous frequencies.
*Position 6 was in the driver’s seat and was very subjective, i.e. the meter reading varied significantly depending on where it was held.
"C" weighting covers 32-10k Hz; "A" weighting covers 500-10k Hz. This means you cut out a lot of low frequencies using "A" weighting. All measurements were made using "C" weighting except for additional interior samples to remove predominantly lower freqs present in the interior (notice the drastic difference between C and A weighting).

My personal impression: The new heads are louder, but not buy a significant amount. With the hood closed you could hardly tell a difference between the two vehicles.
Great job Rich.

My new motor now has 34K miles and 1K miles with the new heads.


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Great job Rich.

My new motor now has 34K miles and 1K miles with the new heads.


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Very nice job Rich. And you too Howie. Both of you guys did a good job with this comparison and documenting it, using actual video as well as a sound level meter.

An actual measurement in decibels of one setup vs another, complete with video, so that people can get a good idea as to what to expect should they decide to go this route.
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Very nice job Rich. And you too Howie. Both of you guys did a good job with this comparison and documenting it, using actual video as well as a sound level meter.

An actual measurement in decibels of one setup vs another, complete with video, so that people can get a good idea as to what to expect should they decide to go this route.
Thanks Ricky

Hopefully it will be helpful for some members.


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Great job Rich.

My new motor now has 34K miles and 1K miles with the new heads.


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Thanks for update, didn't have your actual numbers when I built the spread sheet. When are the original heads off your new motor getting it's guides measured?

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Thanks for the information. I am doing the WCCH heads one week from today. I was a little concerned about Clogan's comment about the louder heads. This really helps. Question, Howie's exhaust system has close to 100,000 more miles of use than Minkster's. I would think it would surely be a little louder. Thanks again.

Mine has B & B PRT's which are louder than stock.

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Originally Posted by Minkster
Thanks for update, didn't have your actual numbers when I built the spread sheet. When are the original heads off your new motor getting it's guides measured?

Heads are going in Friday. Not sure if Richard will measure them immediately or not.


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Originally Posted by MarkC
Thanks for the information. I am doing the WCCH heads one week from today. I was a little concerned about Clogan's comment about the louder heads. This really helps. Question, Howie's exhaust system has close to 100,000 more miles of use than Minkster's. I would think it would surely be a little louder. Thanks again.

Mine has B & B PRT's which are lounder than stock.

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Rich has stock but different (ZR1 I think) exhaust. But I really don't think his meter is picking that up.

I think if you listen and compare the videos you will have a very good idea of what to expect. The camera sound level is static and was placed exactly the same on both cars.


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after comparing the two vehicles, would you say that the infamous ls7 tick is just normal?
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They all tick


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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
They all tick


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thats what I figured..........didnt know if the tick could be directly correlated to valve guide wear.......
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Howie, did you use your old oem lifters or install new ones? Thanks
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Originally Posted by MarkC
Howie, did you use your old oem lifters or install new ones? Thanks
My old ones looked fine but we put new ones in just incase.


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