[Z06] How Many Z06 Owners Are Running Solid Stainless Exhaust Valves?
#922
Team Owner
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#923
Drifting
Stage II port work, solid exhaust, bronze guides, Manley .700 lift springs, and hopefully a smile on my face in a few weeks. Building the motor concurrently and will likely get sprayed for a bit then see if I can resist the boost bug.
#924
Melting Slicks
I think that the forum is set up quite well as it is, in terms of the methods that edits are afforded.
I see no need to protest edits. One can make his own points, and his position should be able to stand on it's own merit, irrespective of what someone else has, or had, to say. So if they "edit" what they say, then it shouldn't matter to anyone else's position.
Your position is in favor of the stock valves, mine is not. Regardless of "edit".
I think that you mistakenly see my edits as some sort of "tactic" as opposed to an effort or a tool to offer more clarity to my communication.
Few scribes, and I do consider myself somewhat of one, can be as effective as they desire in their written communications, without edits and drafts.
From a practical standpoint, that is easier to do on this forum using the edit feature.
If you see an edit, as an invitation to "debate", well then I can assure you that was not my intent.
I see no need to protest edits. One can make his own points, and his position should be able to stand on it's own merit, irrespective of what someone else has, or had, to say. So if they "edit" what they say, then it shouldn't matter to anyone else's position.
Your position is in favor of the stock valves, mine is not. Regardless of "edit".
I think that you mistakenly see my edits as some sort of "tactic" as opposed to an effort or a tool to offer more clarity to my communication.
Few scribes, and I do consider myself somewhat of one, can be as effective as they desire in their written communications, without edits and drafts.
From a practical standpoint, that is easier to do on this forum using the edit feature.
If you see an edit, as an invitation to "debate", well then I can assure you that was not my intent.
I wonder if those ancient Egyptian scribes thought that way before committing their writings to the walls.
Yes, edits are there for a reason. Drafts as well. Editing text 12 hours later removing the bulk of ones argument is not an edit. Its an oops and maybe the draft should have been better thought out before being published.
Very few forums allow unlimited edits with no set expiration time for that very reason. I would imagine if you had a 1 hour edit expiration timer you would spend more time on your drafts. A scribe doesn't publish a book and then decide to edit the bulk of its text. If you fancy yourself as a scribe I guess you should look into that.
As to the invitation to debate, no your edits were not it. Its what was IN prior to those edits. But as you can see, since they are now removed, it seems I am debating without reason.
Last edited by propain; 04-18-2014 at 11:36 AM.
#925
Melting Slicks
Since you are looking to boost and spray the solid exhaust valves were a good choice.
#926
Team Owner
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Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 04-20-2014 at 07:54 AM.
#927
Team Owner
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Well, hold on a second.
You just edited your post.
Last edited by propain; Today at 07:36 AM.
I don't have a problem with that.
Well, perhaps they should have.
Maybe this would have avoided a lot of the misinterpretation of those writings by some later on, that they are references to ancient astronauts and such.
Well while some of my post can be long, I don't consider my posts to be "publications". At least not publications which would be held to the same standard as a "book".
So sorry, but I'm not following your analogy.
You just edited your post.
Last edited by propain; Today at 07:36 AM.
I don't have a problem with that.
Maybe this would have avoided a lot of the misinterpretation of those writings by some later on, that they are references to ancient astronauts and such.
So sorry, but I'm not following your analogy.
#928
Melting Slicks
Well, hold on a second.
You just edited your post.
Last edited by propain; Today at 07:36 AM.
I don't have a problem with that.
Well, perhaps they should have.
Maybe this would have avoided a lot of the misinterpretation of those writings by some later on, that they are references to ancient astronauts and such.
Well while some of my post can be long, I don't consider my posts to be "publications". At least not publications which would be held to the same standard as a "book".
So sorry, but I'm not following your analogy.
You just edited your post.
Last edited by propain; Today at 07:36 AM.
I don't have a problem with that.
Well, perhaps they should have.
Maybe this would have avoided a lot of the misinterpretation of those writings by some later on, that they are references to ancient astronauts and such.
Well while some of my post can be long, I don't consider my posts to be "publications". At least not publications which would be held to the same standard as a "book".
So sorry, but I'm not following your analogy.
Yes, edits for spelling corrections or other grammatical corrections made within a certain period of time are completely acceptable. No one is perfect and there will always be a need to edit within a reasonable amount of time. You removed 90% of the bulk of your message which had already been replied to 12 hours later. Big difference. Sorry you cant seem to grasp the difference.
Sorry your not keeping up with the rest. Maybe read it again.
Last edited by propain; 04-18-2014 at 12:20 PM.
#929
Team Owner
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Yes, edits for spelling corrections or other grammatical corrections made within a certain period of time are completely acceptable. No one is perfect and there will always be a need to edit within a reasonable amount of time. You removed 90% of the bulk of your message which had already been replied to 12 hours later. Big difference. Sorry you cant seem to grasp the difference.
Sorry your not keeping up with the rest. Maybe read it again.
Sorry your not keeping up with the rest. Maybe read it again.
The only thing which happened is that it was pared down for brevity.
I think that you're making more of this matter than need be made of it.
#930
Melting Slicks
I am not making anything out of it. All I stated was you edited your post. I stated I would not partake in a debate where you post and then I reply and then you change what you originally said after that reply. Seems underhanded.
#931
Team Owner
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But as mentioned earlier, the intent was brevity. To shorten the length of the post as well as eliminate any repetitiveness in it. Furthermore there was never any intent for "debate".
Indeed, I didn't even realize that there was even a "debate" in progress, as this thread has as it's mission to keep track of the members who have decided to go this route.
Now, you know I respect you propain. But I'm going to leave off with any further discussion of this particular matter, as I have to get back to the matter of keeping track of our forum members who have elected to go this route.
#932
Team Owner
I am surprised over 350 people have changed out their valves. I didn't think it was that many.
#933
Team Owner
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And it is one of the reasons why I hyperlinked the names. So that people can see it for themselves.
However when you look at how busy these shops are, this 350 people are small potatoes when you look at this on a national level, worldwide level when you count Europe (Germany) and Canada, and look at it in terms of "time".
When I mention "time", do know that this has been going on since late 2005. So we are pushing 9 years now.
So it is not beyond reason to state that there are literally thousands of LS7 equipped Z06s out there running SS valves.
Also, and this is key, there are members in here who have not just changed "valves" in their stock heads, but have changed "heads" to offerings from Mast, PRC and Brodix among others. These heads come with SS exhaust valves in them.
Ask Texas Speed how many sets of LS7 heads they have sold.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1582632612
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1583563728
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 04-18-2014 at 01:42 PM. Reason: cut off the link
#935
Safety Car
#937
#939
Melting Slicks
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm....
#940
Team Owner
Thread Starter
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...post1586692237
Let us know when you get the Mast heads Mubarak. When your build starts, I'll add you to the list.
Wow, I was impressed with how this method had spread in the LS7 when I saw owners in parts of Europe and parts of Canada utilizing it.
Now it's all the way to Western Asia.
People seemingly all over the globe, wherever there are C6 Z06s present, apparently know about them dropping an inordinate number of exhaust valves. And people the world over are taking the step of going with what very many professionals feel to be, a better cylinder head and exhaust valve option over stock. I just went up and added a section in the master listing for the Middle East.
I had gotten a strong hint of this, which can only be described as "global" trend, from one of our forum vendors who rebuilds these heads, American Heritage, in a previous post:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1585382870
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1585379042
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-specials.html
Wow, keep me posted fellow forum members from all over the world.
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 04-20-2014 at 12:32 PM. Reason: add: "what very many professionals feel to be"