[Z06] How Many Z06 Owners Are Running Solid Stainless Exhaust Valves?
#861
Team Owner
Thread Starter
And a strange coincidence as it were.
With the addition of forum member LT1Pat, the number goes to "306".
Rhymes with "Z06".
And at the same time that forum member "ZedNought6" posts up.
And so it is, that the "306" member has PRC heads.
A good omen for those who are partial to those heads.
#862
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
As far as big HP applications no question you will want to go with SS valves. Also if you were to go with forced induction you would also want to use SS valves. In the huge HP applications I don't believe you would want to use bronze guides though. Maybe you could pick this guys brain. I am curious what guide material he uses.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-58-220-a.html
Katech seems to find the OEM valves work just fine in their NA builds. 650ish HP.
http://www.katechengines.com/perform...hicles/c6-z06/
In this thread we are mostly talking about stock alternatives or adding a light cam and tune. In those cases I disagree with your assessment about SS valves being the way to go. Maybe you have a really good reason. I'm all ears.
As far as big HP applications no question you will want to go with SS valves. Also if you were to go with forced induction you would also want to use SS valves. In the huge HP applications I don't believe you would want to use bronze guides though. Maybe you could pick this guys brain. I am curious what guide material he uses.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-58-220-a.html
Katech seems to find the OEM valves work just fine in their NA builds. 650ish HP.
http://www.katechengines.com/perform...hicles/c6-z06/
In this thread we are mostly talking about stock alternatives or adding a light cam and tune. In those cases I disagree with your assessment about SS valves being the way to go. Maybe you have a really good reason. I'm all ears.
#863
Melting Slicks
The most I would want to put down on the Z would be 600-650 to the wheels. I won't go FI route on the Z, that's what my G8 is for. I'm looking for the best option for the price and for my application. Judging from this thread, SS valve route would be the BEST option.
Please do.
#864
Team Owner
Thread Starter
My friends;
I gave us all ample time and space to debate over the last day or so, and I myself may have participated.
We all managed to have a mad minute and get a few things off of each of our respective chests, and make points that we perhaps had not been able to make in the past as a result of the acquisition of new information, and the introduction of new parts. The new Ferrea valves come to mind.
However again, it is with utmost respect, and the respect that I have for my fellow forum members, and the respect that they deserve, even those with whom I sometimes disagree, that I have to ask that we move the actual "debate" portion of this matter outside of this thread at this time, and allow the thread to continue along it's intended course.
Thank you again, for your assistance, and co operation in this matter.
I gave us all ample time and space to debate over the last day or so, and I myself may have participated.
We all managed to have a mad minute and get a few things off of each of our respective chests, and make points that we perhaps had not been able to make in the past as a result of the acquisition of new information, and the introduction of new parts. The new Ferrea valves come to mind.
However again, it is with utmost respect, and the respect that I have for my fellow forum members, and the respect that they deserve, even those with whom I sometimes disagree, that I have to ask that we move the actual "debate" portion of this matter outside of this thread at this time, and allow the thread to continue along it's intended course.
Thank you again, for your assistance, and co operation in this matter.
#865
Team Owner
My friends;
I gave us all ample time and space to debate over the last day or so, and I myself may have participated.
We all managed to have a mad minute and get a few things off of each of our respective chests, and make points that we perhaps had not been able to make in the past as a result of the acquisition of new information, and the introduction of new parts. The new Ferrea valves come to mind.
However again, it is with utmost respect, and the respect that I have for my fellow forum members, and the respect that they deserve, even those with whom I sometimes disagree, that I have to ask that we move the actual "debate" portion of this matter outside of this thread at this time, and allow the thread to continue along it's intended course.
Thank you again, for your assistance, and co operation in this matter.
I gave us all ample time and space to debate over the last day or so, and I myself may have participated.
We all managed to have a mad minute and get a few things off of each of our respective chests, and make points that we perhaps had not been able to make in the past as a result of the acquisition of new information, and the introduction of new parts. The new Ferrea valves come to mind.
However again, it is with utmost respect, and the respect that I have for my fellow forum members, and the respect that they deserve, even those with whom I sometimes disagree, that I have to ask that we move the actual "debate" portion of this matter outside of this thread at this time, and allow the thread to continue along it's intended course.
Thank you again, for your assistance, and co operation in this matter.
Congrats to new members !!!
DH
#866
Best is merely dependent on what the person would want to get out of it. So if the form fits it's function, and judging from this thread, it clearly does. So yes it is the BEST option for me, because I need it to do what's intended. What would your definition or qualification for "BEST" would be?
Last edited by Rupert pupkin; 11-14-2013 at 08:47 PM.
#867
Le Mans Master
Best is merely dependent on what the person would want to get out of it. So if the form fits it's function, and judging from this thread, it clearly does. So yes it is the BEST option for me, because I need it to do what's intended. What would your definition or qualification for "BEST" would be?
And I think the lighter the valve, the better. So solid SS is hardly the best option currently available.
#868
Which is true, there are different options. As long as there's a solution, then all the forum members can decide whichever route they want to make. I have done my research, and contacted 5 multiple speed shops and all of them had recommended going this route.
Continue on Quick.
#869
Le Mans Master
Which is true, there are different options. As long as there's a solution, then all the forum members can decide whichever route they want to make. I have done my research, and contacted 5 multiple speed shops and all of them had recommended going this route.
Continue on Quick.
Continue on Quick.
You forgot to delete the "5" when you wrote multiple. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of speed shops in the country. One of the most reputable shops, the one that built the engines for the C5R and whose head design was the basis for the newer generation LS engines, recommends otherwise.
Those other speed shops had no alternatives for a long time, so why would they recommend something they haven't tried?
#870
Burning Brakes
Put me down as another SS exhaust valve user. I bought the car in October and took the car to Synergy Motorsports to have them do the wiggle test. Then, before they got started I called Rick and told him to just go ahead and pull the heads to rebuild them. So, they pulled them, sent them to where ever they send them, had new guides and valves installed, no head work. Got the car back, and man what a difference.
Car is all stock except a drop in K&N filter and some tuning.
#'s before tune were 453hp@5895 437tq@5005
#'s after tune were 490hp@5929 472tq@5051
Car is all stock except a drop in K&N filter and some tuning.
#'s before tune were 453hp@5895 437tq@5005
#'s after tune were 490hp@5929 472tq@5051
#871
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Put me down as another SS exhaust valve user. I bought the car in October and took the car to Synergy Motorsports to have them do the wiggle test. Then, before they got started I called Rick and told him to just go ahead and pull the heads to rebuild them. So, they pulled them, sent them to where ever they send them, had new guides and valves installed, no head work. Got the car back, and man what a difference.
Car is all stock except a drop in K&N filter and some tuning.
#'s before tune were 453hp@5895 437tq@5005
#'s after tune were 490hp@5929 472tq@5051
Car is all stock except a drop in K&N filter and some tuning.
#'s before tune were 453hp@5895 437tq@5005
#'s after tune were 490hp@5929 472tq@5051
Done.
Feels good to put this matter behind you, doesn't it?
What year is your car BTW?
Thanks
Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; 12-22-2013 at 06:13 PM.
#872
Did they check the guides at all to see if they were out of spec after they got them off? Or you didn't even want to know?
#873
Burning Brakes
car is an '07 with 62k miles.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
Last edited by chetly; 12-22-2013 at 06:19 PM.
#874
Team Owner
Thread Starter
car is an '07 with 62k miles.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
Understandable.
With 62K miles on them, probably not even worth the time or effort to check 'em.
#875
Melting Slicks
car is an '07 with 62k miles.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
It does feel better having them done. Like others, I can afford the $1250 for the head work, but not the $15,000 for a new motor.
I didn't bother having them check the clearances. I did ask if the guys they send em to checked. His response was, they used to check just to see but after getting so many that were bad, they stopped checking and just went to work.
Checking is simply a waste of time if you already have them doing the job and therefor a waste of money for them. Of course they would not want to.
07 with 62K miles I would said you were probably fine but whatever helps you sleep at night.
#877
Team Owner
Local racing buddy is having Richard add SS exhaust valves to his stock LS7 after having guide clearances over .005, failing the wiggle test badly. He had less than 20K miles.
I will try and get him to post up here.
DH
I will try and get him to post up here.
DH
#879
Burning Brakes
2007, 19k miles... valves were Way IN SPEC some 7 months and 3k miles/5 track days ago Figured I should check again after Mike's blown motor at ACS! Glad I did!
#880
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Sounds like you mean me Howie ... will post up with complete details as soon as I get them... Was out of town last month, and as you know, was on the fence on which way to go once I got the warranty replaced heads, but finally went the SS route with Richard at WCCH ... will follow up shortly with all info, slated to get car back Weds or so.
2007, 19k miles... valves were Way IN SPEC some 7 months and 3k miles/5 track days ago Figured I should check again after Mike's blown motor at ACS! Glad I did!
2007, 19k miles... valves were Way IN SPEC some 7 months and 3k miles/5 track days ago Figured I should check again after Mike's blown motor at ACS! Glad I did!