[Z06] how will our 505hp Z's stack up against the '13 662hp shelby?
#281
Racer
I raced a modded 550hp version GT500 and it still only ran 11.70 with slicks full exhaust and headers, smaller pully, intake and tune. Car pulled 1.6 60ft too.
That's why I doubt the new one will run 10's on stock tires. I even posted a video of our run on this post.
That's why I doubt the new one will run 10's on stock tires. I even posted a video of our run on this post.
Last edited by 00__Vette; 05-04-2012 at 07:17 PM.
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Drifting
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#285
Racer
Truly, a timeless design that I wouldn't change a bit. At the end of the trophy run, we were both weighed and the Cobra weighed in at 2200 lbs and me at 3200.
#286
Melting Slicks
Ok here it is standard zl1 camaro ran 11.96 at 117 and automtic ran 11.93 at 116.The Shelby is 300 pounds lighter and had 80 h.p more ,any of you still think it wont be fast?These times for the zl1 are from g.m.on stock tires.The video is on you tube.gt 500 will easily go 11.5 all stock maybe even 11.3.
#287
Racer
Such an awesome piece of machinery!!
#288
Racer
Ok here it is standard zl1 camaro ran 11.96 at 117 and automtic ran 11.93 at 116.The Shelby is 300 pounds lighter and had 80 h.p more ,any of you still think it wont be fast?These times for the zl1 are from g.m.on stock tires.The video is on you tube.gt 500 will easily go 11.5 all stock maybe even 11.3.
#289
Racer
When I bought my 396, it was $4k and the 427 Cobra was selling for $13k. Times and prices have certainly changed
#290
Team Owner
This thread has become very interesting. I can't wait to see actual results.
#291
Le Mans Master
Ok here it is standard zl1 camaro ran 11.96 at 117 and automtic ran 11.93 at 116.The Shelby is 300 pounds lighter and had 80 h.p more ,any of you still think it wont be fast?These times for the zl1 are from g.m.on stock tires.The video is on you tube.gt 500 will easily go 11.5 all stock maybe even 11.3.
#292
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/04/2...11-93-seconds/
ZL1 did the QM in 11.93 seconds. See above link.
ZL1 did the QM in 11.93 seconds. See above link.
662hp rustang will be 11.8 to 11.9 at a 120 to 122mph and will be an 11.4to 11.7 car with drag radials.
As for our beloved 505 hp Z06's it will be very close on the quarter. with a slight edge going to the z06 - probably mostly a drivers race. Frpm an 80 mph roll up to 160 mph, I think the z06 has it. from a 40 mph roll on - watch out, the stang might get our 5o5hp.
On a road course or track of course our Z06's will run circles around the rustang.
Bottomline -- I would like one of these stang's in my garage over a Zl1. simply because it is a much better looking car than the camaro. - I will keep my z06 - thank you very much
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 05-06-2012 at 10:11 AM.
#293
Team Owner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XNhulxLTim8
The new one has 112hp/121tq more than that one and weighs roughly the same.
It does have slightly less aggressive gearing (which could possibly help it even more on those relatively narrow stock rear tires) though.
On average yes, mid to high 11s will be the most common.
But I believe that in good air with a great driver a pure bone stock 2013 GT500 will run an 11.3/11.2 at over 124mph.
High 10s with just a rear tire swap in those same conditions.
Time will tell.
#294
I don't doubt 10s on a drag at all. However, they are fitted with 285s in the back, and just like the 550 hp gt500s ran 12.4s+ @ 116 all day, I'm not seeing how people are coming up with this car shaving a full second off with more power and the same traction issues. I will be stunned if this '13 pulls off better than an 11.6-8 on factory street tires. If it runs 10.8 on drags, I wouldn't be stunned however.
#295
Melting Slicks
Gizmo how do you explain 662 h.p on drag radials going slower than a z06 when the weight difference is 700 pounds but there are 157 h.p more and 160 lbs /ft of torque more in the gt 500?I understand you love your z06 as i love mine but i hope for you ,an angry guy in a gt 500 doesnt spank your butt silly .And 120 to 122 mph ?Are you dreaming? The gt 500 will easily see 126 mph even on tires.
#296
Melting Slicks
The suspension has been seriously tuned for the gt 500 to hook up and i think many people here on this forum are in for a big surprise.Do not under estimate this car,and, remember the z06 dates back to 2006 ,this is 2013 tecnology!Like i said earlier 11.3 to 11.5 all stock at 126mph is very doable with 662 h.p
#297
The suspension has been seriously tuned for the gt 500 to hook up and i think many people here on this forum are in for a big surprise.Do not under estimate this car,and, remember the z06 dates back to 2006 ,this is 2013 tecnology!Like i said earlier 11.3 to 11.5 all stock at 126mph is very doable with 662 h.p
I just know that getting a 1.7 60 ft out of a street tired Z06 is challenging if you aren't at Norwalk/MIR or some other great track. On street tires I average about 11.4@132.8 with 1.79 60's. My car weighs 3130, and I have about 615 hp at the flywheel. Now vettes are lighter, have wider tires, and have a transaxle over the rear tires, all of which are advantages over the GT500s.
So what people are saying when they say the 13 MY GT500 will run 11.3-11.5, is that with more horsepower and "technology" the Mustang is going to go from 60fts in the high 1.8s (best GT500 on street tires I've seen yet - put my friend at 12.2 @ 116) to 60 fts in the 1.6s? The laws of physics don't seem to jive with this logic. I love the GT500 too, considering switching over, but I just don't see this car running 11.3 on a street tire. This isn't hating, just how actual numbers I see would play out. Should the car trap 128? Absolutely.
#298
Le Mans Master
00 vette .Read carefully what i write:505 h.p 3150 pounds vs 662 h.p 3850 pounds power to weight is more on the gt 500 that usually is what decides which is faster.Granted neither car will hook up on stock tires and my guess is that given the 630 ft lbs of torque that it puts out the gt 500will benefit far more from a set of drag radials.This cr will go 10s with drag radials guaranteed, and much more consistently than we do.Huge horsepower and torque advantage plus traction spell trouble.10.6 at 129mph is my guess.
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