[Z06] magnetic ride control...yea or nay!
12-20-2011, 09:05 PM
#21
Drifting
All of the fear mongering and concern about shock failures etc with the mag suspension is so funny to read about 
I have them on my '98 C5 which is sitting in my garage with 86k miles on it, never leaked, never had a problem, works just fine and they are nearly 14 years old
That car is my daily driver so if there ever was a car that they would fail on, it would be that one. I did not have them on my 05 C6, wished that I did and actually hated driving that car because it felt like a Honda so I ended up selling it
. I have them on my '11 C6 Z06 Carbon Ed. now too and I highly doubt that I would buy a vette without them in the future unless I'm trying to make some kind of dedicated race car. For an occasional track car which my Z is now being built for they are just fine and I see no need to change them otherwise I would have just slapped some Moton's on it and called it a day. I really think that a lot of the people that are negative about this system just have not spent enough time driving at high rates of speed in a car with it.
I have them on my '98 C5 which is sitting in my garage with 86k miles on it, never leaked, never had a problem, works just fine and they are nearly 14 years old That car is my daily driver so if there ever was a car that they would fail on, it would be that one. I did not have them on my 05 C6, wished that I did and actually hated driving that car because it felt like a Honda so I ended up selling it. I have them on my '11 C6 Z06 Carbon Ed. now too and I highly doubt that I would buy a vette without them in the future unless I'm trying to make some kind of dedicated race car. For an occasional track car which my Z is now being built for they are just fine and I see no need to change them otherwise I would have just slapped some Moton's on it and called it a day. I really think that a lot of the people that are negative about this system just have not spent enough time driving at high rates of speed in a car with it.
12-20-2011, 11:08 PM
#22
As a past owner of two Z06s and 1 Zr1 I can definitely say the Zr1 handled so much better than the twitchy Z06s. Its a soft as a caddy and tame as a kitten and then in an instant it's absolute perfection.
12-21-2011, 10:12 AM
#23
Safety Car
12-21-2011, 12:38 PM
#24
Team Owner
12-21-2011, 04:34 PM
#25
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I had F55 on a 05 coupe. Unfortunately I couldnt get the Z51 package with F55 so I had to add the z-51 sway bars to get the car to stop rolling in the turns even in sport mode. You also got the base GY tires which I wont even comment about other than those got changed too. After those mods it was much better.
I got rid of that car and bought an 08 Z06 and put a set of PS2's on it. I think it rides better than my 05 coupe did in any mode. I dont think I would have spent the money for F55 on the Z06 if it was available in 08.
BTW, both of these cars are DD's 10 months a year.
I got rid of that car and bought an 08 Z06 and put a set of PS2's on it. I think it rides better than my 05 coupe did in any mode. I dont think I would have spent the money for F55 on the Z06 if it was available in 08.
BTW, both of these cars are DD's 10 months a year.
12-21-2011, 07:12 PM
#26
Well I did purchase a 12 with the mag suspension,and I love the way it handles over my 06Z.I can't wait to do some track days with it to see what the mag suspension can really do.The car is so stable and composed no matter what you are doing.The only neg with the Z07 package is the car has to be driven every second,and what I mean by that is if there is any imperfection in the road the car will pull slightly that way,and you have to be aware to keep it straight.
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12-21-2011, 07:20 PM
#27
Race Director
Congrats. The pulling is probably the alignment or the tires. If you have the PS2's, I'd have the alignment checked.
12-21-2011, 07:38 PM
#28
I think it is the alignment and the tires.I mean there is nothing wrong with the alignment,it is just with the Z07 package there is alot of neg camber,and with the Pilot Sport Cup tires it just kinda goes where it wants.
12-21-2011, 08:02 PM
#29
Race Director
I forgot the Z07 package came with the Cup tires and more aggressive alignment. It should be a track beast!
12-21-2011, 08:25 PM
#30
Drifting
Well I did purchase a 12 with the mag suspension,and I love the way it handles over my 06Z.I can't wait to do some track days with it to see what the mag suspension can really do.The car is so stable and composed no matter what you are doing.The only neg with the Z07 package is the car has to be driven every second,and what I mean by that is if there is any imperfection in the road the car will pull slightly that way,and you have to be aware to keep it straight.
12-21-2011, 08:37 PM
#31
Team Owner
Well I did purchase a 12 with the mag suspension,and I love the way it handles over my 06Z.I can't wait to do some track days with it to see what the mag suspension can really do.The car is so stable and composed no matter what you are doing.The only neg with the Z07 package is the car has to be driven every second,and what I mean by that is if there is any imperfection in the road the car will pull slightly that way,and you have to be aware to keep it straight.
12-21-2011, 08:44 PM
#32
Werks,thanks yea I was going to get an 11 Carbon Edition the same color,but last second decided to go with the 12 with the Z07 package.Congrats on the 11 Carbon Edition=badass ride.
In the future I want to do some mods and get some more hp out of the LS7.I just figured with the Z07 package (with the mag control shocks) and the ceramic brakes,I would not have to upgrade them in the future,and just do motor.
In the future I want to do some mods and get some more hp out of the LS7.I just figured with the Z07 package (with the mag control shocks) and the ceramic brakes,I would not have to upgrade them in the future,and just do motor.
12-21-2011, 09:02 PM
#33
Drifting
Werks,thanks yea I was going to get an 11 Carbon Edition the same color,but last second decided to go with the 12 with the Z07 package.Congrats on the 11 Carbon Edition=badass ride.
In the future I want to do some mods and get some more hp out of the LS7.I just figured with the Z07 package (with the mag control shocks) and the ceramic brakes,I would not have to upgrade them in the future,and just do motor.
In the future I want to do some mods and get some more hp out of the LS7.I just figured with the Z07 package (with the mag control shocks) and the ceramic brakes,I would not have to upgrade them in the future,and just do motor.
12-21-2011, 11:32 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
It seems to me that for an out of the box solution that the system offers several advantages. Looking at the '12 Z06's with PTM you get an all inclusive system that controls not only shock stiffness but integrates traction control settings with it. This is a highly advanced system which seems to be well worth the money. If you looks at the ZR1's they seem to be doing quite well on the track with this system also. Also do not forget that Lou ran them on his ZR1 when he won the Spectre hill climb not once but twice and I'm quite sure that with their resources if they felt there were improvements to be had by installing coil overs, they probably would have installed them.
Can a high quality coil over set up possibly perform better than the magnetic suspension set up? I would say yes. If the owner ran on one track and took the time and had the know how to fine tune the suspension set up for the specific track & conditions that he is running on. Change tracks or conditions though and it's back to the drawing board with the coil overs. While with the magnetic ride the computer is analyzing things and adjusting stuff in real time. So while the "expert" might be able to tweak out an extra 10% or so out of a coil over set up on a track that he always runs on, those that are less knowledgeable will probably be better served with a suspension that tunes it self.
Can a high quality coil over set up possibly perform better than the magnetic suspension set up? I would say yes. If the owner ran on one track and took the time and had the know how to fine tune the suspension set up for the specific track & conditions that he is running on. Change tracks or conditions though and it's back to the drawing board with the coil overs. While with the magnetic ride the computer is analyzing things and adjusting stuff in real time. So while the "expert" might be able to tweak out an extra 10% or so out of a coil over set up on a track that he always runs on, those that are less knowledgeable will probably be better served with a suspension that tunes it self.
12-22-2011, 12:25 PM
#35
Well I did purchase a 12 with the mag suspension,and I love the way it handles over my 06Z.I can't wait to do some track days with it to see what the mag suspension can really do.The car is so stable and composed no matter what you are doing.The only neg with the Z07 package is the car has to be driven every second,and what I mean by that is if there is any imperfection in the road the car will pull slightly that way,and you have to be aware to keep it straight.
12-22-2011, 12:49 PM
#36
Melting Slicks
Well I did purchase a 12 with the mag suspension,and I love the way it handles over my 06Z.I can't wait to do some track days with it to see what the mag suspension can really do.The car is so stable and composed no matter what you are doing.The only neg with the Z07 package is the car has to be driven every second,and what I mean by that is if there is any imperfection in the road the car will pull slightly that way,and you have to be aware to keep it straight.
12-23-2011, 02:21 PM
#37
Race Director
I noticed the same darting issue when I went from stock sized INVOs to OEM ZR1 wheels with PS2 ZPs (alignment remained the same). I think is is a combination of the change in front tire width (18" 275 to 19" 285) and alignment. I laid the two tires down side-by-side to see the difference, and the 285s were significantly wider than the 275s. Front tires also skip (popping) more at full lock now too. I'm having my alignment guy dial in a little more toe (set at zero now) to see if that helps. If not, may dail out some camber (at -1.29 now).
01-06-2012, 08:03 PM
#39
The other day my wife and i where traveling down the road when the road surface changed to where the expansion joints where pretty bumpy,so I changed the setting to touring on my mag suspension,and it took alot of the harshness out,and made it more comfortable.I kinda feel like I can have my cake and eat it too.
