[Z06] Katech stage 1
06-12-2009, 03:20 PM
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Katech stage 1
For those with this package, how do you like it. How noticeable is the power increase. What is gained in 1/4 mile times and speeds. how would this package compare to the LPE 616 package in performance.
06-12-2009, 05:25 PM
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Good question. But why not start with Jason at Katech. Then you can compare with what others have to say. You will then know specifically what the Stage One kit contains and become more familar with what mods are creating in terms of performance results.
06-12-2009, 06:29 PM
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I'm real happy with mine. I drove my car stock for a year and half, and have had it for about another year and a half since Katech modified it. I think their work and packages are top notch. Plus they are very flexible, you can order al a carte darn near anything you can imagine (that's legal anyhow) doing to a Z.
I think the true test of a project like this is whether after it's done if you ask knowing what you know now, would you do it all over again. My answer to that is, you bet I would.
Luv the looks, love the sound, love the power.
And getting to know the Katech gang has been enjoyable as well. I consider them friends of mine.
Unfortunatly I don't know anything about the LPE folks or their products or services, so I can't give you any kind of comparison there.
If you ever blow through Wichita, look me up, and I'll let you check mine out.
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06-12-2009, 06:32 PM
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I can go on and on about it but I think the best feedback is from our customer's testimonials.
06-12-2009, 06:33 PM
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I'm real happy with mine. I drove my car stock for a year and half, and have had it for about another year and a half since Katech modified it. I think their work and packages are top notch. Plus they are very flexible, you can order al a carte darn near anything you can imagine (that's legal anyhow) doing to a Z.
I think the true test of a project like this is whether after it's done if you ask knowing what you know now, would you do it all over again. My answer to that is, you bet I would.
Luv the looks, love the sound, love the power.
And getting to know the Katech gang has been enjoyable as well. I consider them friends of mine.
Unfortunatly I don't know anything about the LPE folks or their products or services, so I can't give you any kind of comparison there.
If you ever blow through Wichita, look me up, and I'll you check mine out.
I think the true test of a project like this is whether after it's done if you ask knowing what you know now, would you do it all over again. My answer to that is, you bet I would.
Luv the looks, love the sound, love the power.
And getting to know the Katech gang has been enjoyable as well. I consider them friends of mine.
Unfortunatly I don't know anything about the LPE folks or their products or services, so I can't give you any kind of comparison there.
If you ever blow through Wichita, look me up, and I'll you check mine out.
06-12-2009, 06:40 PM
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500 to the wheels. I've since added a Halltech CAI, so it probably would do around 505-510 at the wheels per Jason's dyno - which by the way doesn't give out "fantasy" dyno numbers like I get the sense some do. It's real honest power. I also have stock exhaust manifolds. I think you can gain even more if your car is already equipped with long tubes.
And the cam - named the Torquer - earns its label. You can really feel the difference in low end torque compared to stock. This isn't a package that just gives big numbers up top. It gives you useable twist down in the tach where you can feel it/use it.
Plus it's not so high strung as to be unliveable as a street car. Very driveable package.
And the cam - named the Torquer - earns its label. You can really feel the difference in low end torque compared to stock. This isn't a package that just gives big numbers up top. It gives you useable twist down in the tach where you can feel it/use it.
Plus it's not so high strung as to be unliveable as a street car. Very driveable package.
06-12-2009, 06:45 PM
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500 to the wheels. I've since added a Halltech CAI, so it probably would do around 505-510 at the wheels per Jason's dyno - which by the way doesn't give out "fantasy" dyno numbers like I get the sense some do. It's real honest power. I also have stock exhaust manifolds. I think you can gain even more if your car is already equipped with long tubes.
And the cam - named the Torquer - earns its label. You can really feel the difference in low end torque compared to stock. This isn't a package that just gives big numbers up top. It gives you useable twist down in the tach where you can feel it/use it.
Plus it's not so high strung as to be unliveable as a street car. Very driveable package.
And the cam - named the Torquer - earns its label. You can really feel the difference in low end torque compared to stock. This isn't a package that just gives big numbers up top. It gives you useable twist down in the tach where you can feel it/use it.
Plus it's not so high strung as to be unliveable as a street car. Very driveable package.
06-12-2009, 07:32 PM
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Subjectively, how much lope does it have? Does it shake the car at idle?
06-12-2009, 11:30 PM
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Car currently there for clutch upgrade - will let all know status in short time.
Bob
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06-13-2009, 12:50 AM
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06-13-2009, 08:53 AM
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I sent my 2007 to Katech with 3,500 miles on it. It had Kooks headers and X-pipe. They added stage 1 cam etc., clutch, Ron Davis radiator, had rear end and transmission balanced, cryo treated and micropolished along with engine paint, MTI spoiler and other minor items. The car now has LG coil overs, MTI anti-roll bars and front splitter.
Katech dynoed it at about 610 flywheel HP with the stock intake. I got one of Jim Hall's first Killer Bees and had it dynoed locally after installation and they got 656 flywheel HP! Just shows the difference in dynos. Katech does give conservative HP numbers but they are the most accurate.
My car has only been tracked twice at both Track Attacks. I added an ARE dry sump and made some oil line changes to help with oil starvation for this year. I am a retired road racer so I do push the car a little further than most.
Now, to your question, "Would I do it again?" Well, I am not happy with what I see on the oil drain plugs so early next week my car is going back to Katech to get the full engine rebuild with their new oil pump and piston squirters. I can't wait to get it back.
I know many of the Katech people including the owner and his wife. They, like Jason, are just first class people. And their techs are also just the best.
LPE has had a lot of issues. I can't knock them because I don't know anything personally. I can tell you I have friends that were once very high on LPE and now will no longer will consider them.
My vote is: KATECH!
Jim
Katech #10
Katech dynoed it at about 610 flywheel HP with the stock intake. I got one of Jim Hall's first Killer Bees and had it dynoed locally after installation and they got 656 flywheel HP! Just shows the difference in dynos. Katech does give conservative HP numbers but they are the most accurate.
My car has only been tracked twice at both Track Attacks. I added an ARE dry sump and made some oil line changes to help with oil starvation for this year. I am a retired road racer so I do push the car a little further than most.
Now, to your question, "Would I do it again?" Well, I am not happy with what I see on the oil drain plugs so early next week my car is going back to Katech to get the full engine rebuild with their new oil pump and piston squirters. I can't wait to get it back.
I know many of the Katech people including the owner and his wife. They, like Jason, are just first class people. And their techs are also just the best.
LPE has had a lot of issues. I can't knock them because I don't know anything personally. I can tell you I have friends that were once very high on LPE and now will no longer will consider them.
My vote is: KATECH!
Jim
Katech #10
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06-13-2009, 10:28 AM
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I sent my 2007 to Katech with 3,500 miles on it. It had Kooks headers and X-pipe. They added stage 1 cam etc., clutch, Ron Davis radiator, had rear end and transmission balanced, cryo treated and micropolished along with engine paint, MTI spoiler and other minor items. The car now has LG coil overs, MTI anti-roll bars and front splitter.
Katech dynoed it at about 610 RWHP with the stock intake. I got one of Jim Hall's first Killer Bees and had it dynoed locally after installation and they got 656 RWHP! Just shows the difference in dynos. Katech does give conservative HP numbers but they are the most accurate.
My car has only been tracked twice at both Track Attacks. I added an ARE dry sump and made some oil line changes to help with oil starvation for this year. I am a retired road racer so I do push the car a little further than most.
Now, to your question, "Would I do it again?" Well, I am not happy with what I see on the oil drain plugs so early next week my car is going back to Katech to get the full engine rebuild with their new oil pump and piston squirters. I can't wait to get it back.
I know many of the Katech people including the owner and his wife. They, like Jason, are just first class people. And their techs are also just the best.
LPE has had a lot of issues. I can't knock them because I don't know anything personally. I can tell you I have friends that were once very high on LPE and now will no longer will consider them.
My vote is: KATECH!
Jim
Katech #10
Katech dynoed it at about 610 RWHP with the stock intake. I got one of Jim Hall's first Killer Bees and had it dynoed locally after installation and they got 656 RWHP! Just shows the difference in dynos. Katech does give conservative HP numbers but they are the most accurate.
My car has only been tracked twice at both Track Attacks. I added an ARE dry sump and made some oil line changes to help with oil starvation for this year. I am a retired road racer so I do push the car a little further than most.
Now, to your question, "Would I do it again?" Well, I am not happy with what I see on the oil drain plugs so early next week my car is going back to Katech to get the full engine rebuild with their new oil pump and piston squirters. I can't wait to get it back.
I know many of the Katech people including the owner and his wife. They, like Jason, are just first class people. And their techs are also just the best.
LPE has had a lot of issues. I can't knock them because I don't know anything personally. I can tell you I have friends that were once very high on LPE and now will no longer will consider them.
My vote is: KATECH!
Jim
Katech #10
06-13-2009, 10:31 AM
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2 year veteran of Katech stage 1 w/ Fusions and torquer and Halltech KB, Kook headers and high flow cats (not Katech), Vector Tune - across street from Katech)...car used as DD. Additional dynamat and extra bling @ Katech. Project done right, no pressure and class act. All staff there great. I would be first to complain if there were any issues. Mustang dyno is 508 rwhp. Lope before tune (w/ torquer) was extreme (IMO) and non existent after. Would recommend them to anyone!
Car currently there for clutch upgrade - will let all know status in short time.
Bob
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Car currently there for clutch upgrade - will let all know status in short time.
Bob
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06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
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I think what Jim was trying to say is that we make choices on what work we want Katech to do to our cars and we live with those choices. I remember when both mine and Jim's cars were at Katech in early '07. We chatted about what we were having done. I didn't know Jim back then as well as I do now so when he told me about the trans and diff work he was doing, I thought it was overkill. A year later, I shipped my car back to Katech to get what Jim had done as well as a few other goodies.
I'm guessing that Jim's decission to send his car back to Katech is more for peace of mind than anything else.
06-13-2009, 12:52 PM
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First, you need to know the man that is Jim Painter. Jim has many racing victories and championships under his belt. Even though Jim has only tracked his car twice, I'm quite sure those weren't the only times that car was pushed. Do I want to be a high performance car that is owned by a professional race driver? I guess I'd have to have really bad karma in a past life to deserve that.
I think what Jim was trying to say is that we make choices on what work we want Katech to do to our cars and we live with those choices. I remember when both mine and Jim's cars were at Katech in early '07. We chatted about what we were having done. I didn't know Jim back then as well as I do now so when he told me about the trans and diff work he was doing, I thought it was overkill. A year later, I shipped my car back to Katech to get what Jim had done as well as a few other goodies.
I'm guessing that Jim's decission to send his car back to Katech is more for peace of mind than anything else.
I think what Jim was trying to say is that we make choices on what work we want Katech to do to our cars and we live with those choices. I remember when both mine and Jim's cars were at Katech in early '07. We chatted about what we were having done. I didn't know Jim back then as well as I do now so when he told me about the trans and diff work he was doing, I thought it was overkill. A year later, I shipped my car back to Katech to get what Jim had done as well as a few other goodies.
I'm guessing that Jim's decission to send his car back to Katech is more for peace of mind than anything else.
I think the bearings or pistons or something is wearing. I just don't like it and I just want to take any chances on having the car 500 miles from home and having an engine problem. I would not worry about normal driving and occasionally getting on it on the street. If you are going to hammer it on a road course and get the oil temps i the 270-280 degree range then I think you need better internals.
My post should have said flywheel HP not rear wheel HP. Sorry. I edited the post. When you get old you do stupid things like that.
Jim
06-13-2009, 12:54 PM
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427500 - As he states, chassis dynos have huge variability dyno to dyno. So large that katech does not use a chassis dyno but rather an engine dyno to my understanding... The bottom line, chassis dynos are relatively useless unless you get a baseline and use the same dyno(within a short period of time) to lmeasure changes... Few dynos if any are calibrated like they should be after installation and so their absolute number they output is useless.
06-13-2009, 12:59 PM
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Vector did last tune after they added Kook headers and high flow cats to Fusions (and other Stage 1 stuff) that Katech installed...Their Mustang dyno is very conservative, so I would be very careful when comparing rwhp claims that abound on the Forum.
Any more power (IMO) would only melt more tires.
Great car before, phenomenal car now and I smile on a daily basis as used as a DD.
I have been back to Katech (unfortunately for me, I only live 15 minutes away) for 160 thermostat, Dewitts, Koolmat and Dynamat sound insulation).
Personnel and service have been great.
Would absolutely do again if I upgraded to new car!
Bob
Any more power (IMO) would only melt more tires.
Great car before, phenomenal car now and I smile on a daily basis as used as a DD.
I have been back to Katech (unfortunately for me, I only live 15 minutes away) for 160 thermostat, Dewitts, Koolmat and Dynamat sound insulation).
Personnel and service have been great.
Would absolutely do again if I upgraded to new car!
Bob
06-13-2009, 03:37 PM
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Thankyou all for your comments. I knew Jason and the folks at Katech are Top Shelf. Jason answers alot of questions for people on this forum,he's a class act all the way. I just wanted to know if some of the people with Katech Zs were happy that they modded there car. If I decide mod mine, I know who I'm going to have do it.
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KATECH THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE
06-14-2009, 11:34 AM
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