Zmark06

Just for the record My engine blew while on track at a performance driving school and our friends at GM WILL NOT WARRANTY THE ENGINE REPLACEMENT. The warranty language states that they will not cover damage caused while racing or competetive driving. I was not involved in either situation. I was enrolled in a performance driving school that does not teach racing or allow any competition between students. GM refused to review my class enrollment documents, would not inspect my engine or go through its computer info to even find out why or what caused the engine failed. Many dealers told me that I would have been better off if I had lied add told them it happened on the highway. DO NOT TELL GM YOU WERE EVER ON A TRACK! good luck to all others that enjoy track time with their Z's. I understand that they are changing the dry sump to a larger capacity tank for the 09's. Im now considering a Lingenfelter built engine for my GM BLACKBALLED Z06.

BearZ06

Doesn't seem right or fair but probably an example of what the future holds. They should have at least looked closer at your situation. Sorry for you trouble, but now your choices are wide open. Check out the Forum vender packages (there are several)and have fun shopping for your new power!

jmagilto

Not to hijack your thread - and I am sorry to hear about your troubles - I find myself wondering....If Gm declares and goes Ch11 - will that invalidate all of their warranties?

thoughts?

BearZ06

I think that would be suicide for their brand but we can expect more scrutiny with claims.

nzk

mods?
what makes u think oil starvation was the cause?

GMuffley

Chapter 11 does not invalidate warranties, but as BearZ06 suggests, we can look forward to much greater scrutiny for warranty claims.

CraZee ZO6

very sad they should cover it especially that you were honest and they PROMOTE performance driving days.. B****!
the video of my zo6 that came with the car thats all they showed in the video.
all this in regards to if its a STOCK car.

Z06LINK

Doesn't GM give the guys who buy ZR1's a free driving school at Spring Mountain? If you missed a down shift it should be on you. Anything else and GM should step up.

CraZee ZO6

right.. a computer scan will tell if it was user fault by overrev.

MikeP

Is your Z modded? If so what mods can be seen from just opening the hood? Sorry to hear od GM not stepping up to the plate and warranting your Z for which they advertised and sold as a performance street/track car. I would ahve to raise the BS flag on this one!

Mike P.

kverges

Actually, a Chapter 11 Debtor has the right to reject executory contracts and while I have not specifically researched warranties, a bankruptcy IMO clearly places warranty validity in jeopardy.

In other words if the big push to Chapter 11 is to be able to break union contracts, I see no reason GM could not also break warranty contracts.

04_Z06_CE

That sucks to hear man...
I agree with you though , DONT TELL GM ****!
Turn it back to stock and play the Dumb game ....

RUBYREDVET

If GM were to break all warranties, they would be commiting suicide. Their sales would go to 0. GM biggest customers are probably brand loyal repeat customers.

GOLD72

NineBall

I'm pretty sure the GM computer does not store historical evidence, unless a check engine code was the result. That is why we have to use scanners on real-time to see issues, and use those scanners to log and record historical data.

Never tell a service manager you were on a track. "Racing" can also be defined as racing the vehicle. Doesn't mean it has to be organized or timed, that verbage is only on insurance related stuff, not warranty.

If you are on a track, common sense tells us you were "racing".

Red Cell

Geez, I'm sorry to hear.

Red Cell.

Leo the Lion

That really sucks. Sorry to hear this. Well, now get the car to Kateck and get a bullet proof engine and never look back. Just about what I'd do I guess.
Good luck going forward.

allanlaw

Ah, now I understand - "racing" means "racing." That certainly clarifies matters - or does it? Can you be racing by yourself? On a track - how about on a freeway five miles over the speed limit? Circular definitions aren't really helpful.

The first online dictionary I looked at defines racing as "a contest of speed, as in running, riding, driving, or sailing." Other online dictionaries had roughly the same definitions. A typical HPDE event is not a contest - there are no winners, prizes, etc.

Now, let me be absolutely clear - there is no doubt that GM has entered into a fairly new corporate policy of initially denying any warranty claim for a blown engine on a Z06 if they can find any reason, bogus or otherwise. Z06 engines do have a propensity to blow, whether on the top end from a broken valve spring or on the bottom end from an oiling failure, without regard to modifications or necessarily driving style. As a result, powertrain mods and HDPE events can have added risk. Personally, I think the HDPE case is winnable by an owner, but there is a high aggravation factor and a car out of service for a long time. If you want to do serious tracking, I continue to suggest going with a C5 with a cage.

Crush

That truly sucks that you get screwed for being Honest!!!! They are just asking to be lied too, IMO. Today's society in general welcomes dishonesty. I am a very very upfront and honest person, and with today's society it has been a challenge to maintain something I am very proud of!

GMuffley

That would require approval of a bankruptcy judge to void any contractual agreement. A company in Chapter 11 cannot void a contract unilaterally and must demonstrate that voiding a contract is necessary to the survival of the company.