[Z06] General Exclaim UHP Tires in Stock OEM C6Z sizes
12-31-2008, 03:33 AM
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OK. I finally got to try these out.
Short version:
Excellent STREET tire! Quiet, soft ride, enough grip.
Long version:
What do you do when it's 2am, your bored and it's 36 degrees out? Sleep?
Hell no! Try out those cheap Czechoslovakian tires on your Z06 of course!
These things are MUCH QUIETER that the stock runflats. Did anyone realize these cars come with a radio...
They have a MUCH softer, compliant ride. Too soft at 32psi; the handling was sloppy and a little unpredictable starting around .8G on on-ramps. Upping the pressure to 38 psi made a huge difference. 1G was a lot more comfortable and the ride was still soft. You could consider these a poor man's street-tuned coil over substitute...
The alignment on my car is -1.2 camber all around. There is quite a bit more yaw 'slop' at turn in with these tires than with the GY runflats. But, there is little under steer. If anything, I think the turn in is better at street speeds. In fact, when at 32psi, it feels like the car wants to over steer. 38 psi was more even(they're rated to 51 psi
). They give up grip very gradually with a satisfying and progressive low squeal.
I couldn't resist a few spirited street launches and here they proved to be vastly superior to the GYs. They handled a 3500 rpm launch at 36 degrees reasonable well laying down 20ft of tread with no hint of spinning out of control. I have a 2006 with original shocks and there was NO WHEEL HOP
. They also have a much more satisfying 'peal-out' sound. A strong shift to second will break them loose almost as much as the launch; but, it's WAY better than the stockers. Very predictable and controllable. The GYs just don't perform well cold at all and quietly spin as if on ice under that type of launch.
Somebody, not me, should shave these down, lower to 25psi and try them out in the 1/4.
I'm very happy with these so far. My main reason for trying these was to save money for some PS Cups for my next HPDE. I am very pleasantly surprised with the performance.
The only real draw back is that they are not run flats. But, considering the $800 savings, I think I can afford some fix-a-flat and a new TPMS sensor if I have to. I already carry a portable compressor anyway.
I'll update here with a wet skid pad report as soon as it rains.
Short version:
Excellent STREET tire! Quiet, soft ride, enough grip.
Long version:
What do you do when it's 2am, your bored and it's 36 degrees out? Sleep?
Hell no! Try out those cheap Czechoslovakian tires on your Z06 of course!
These things are MUCH QUIETER that the stock runflats. Did anyone realize these cars come with a radio...
They have a MUCH softer, compliant ride. Too soft at 32psi; the handling was sloppy and a little unpredictable starting around .8G on on-ramps. Upping the pressure to 38 psi made a huge difference. 1G was a lot more comfortable and the ride was still soft. You could consider these a poor man's street-tuned coil over substitute...
The alignment on my car is -1.2 camber all around. There is quite a bit more yaw 'slop' at turn in with these tires than with the GY runflats. But, there is little under steer. If anything, I think the turn in is better at street speeds. In fact, when at 32psi, it feels like the car wants to over steer. 38 psi was more even(they're rated to 51 psi
). They give up grip very gradually with a satisfying and progressive low squeal.I couldn't resist a few spirited street launches and here they proved to be vastly superior to the GYs. They handled a 3500 rpm launch at 36 degrees reasonable well laying down 20ft of tread with no hint of spinning out of control. I have a 2006 with original shocks and there was NO WHEEL HOP
. They also have a much more satisfying 'peal-out' sound. A strong shift to second will break them loose almost as much as the launch; but, it's WAY better than the stockers. Very predictable and controllable. The GYs just don't perform well cold at all and quietly spin as if on ice under that type of launch. Somebody, not me, should shave these down, lower to 25psi and try them out in the 1/4.
I'm very happy with these so far. My main reason for trying these was to save money for some PS Cups for my next HPDE. I am very pleasantly surprised with the performance.
The only real draw back is that they are not run flats. But, considering the $800 savings, I think I can afford some fix-a-flat and a new TPMS sensor if I have to. I already carry a portable compressor anyway.
I'll update here with a wet skid pad report as soon as it rains.
12-31-2008, 05:30 AM
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Thy hold great
12-31-2008, 06:54 AM
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Thanks for the write up. Impressive tire, especially for the price. They also clearly state that this is a summer tire and not to drive in near freezing temperatures, but it sounds like they still held up nicely.
Can you please post some pictures of them mounted on a Z06? Thanks!
Can you please post some pictures of them mounted on a Z06? Thanks!
12-31-2008, 07:58 AM
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Weight???
How much do they ACTUALLY weigh? Can someone throw them on a bathroom scale and tell us?
The four pound weight savings on the front isn't unreasonable but I find it hard to believe they could make the rear tire that large and have it weigh only one pound more than the front never mind that makes it TEN pounds lighter than the GY.
Also, per the specs listed they say revs per mile on the rear is only 702, if this is true it must be significantly taller than the stock GY which revs at 783 per mile. The front revs per mile specs are pretty comparable at 821 vs 816 for the GY.
My experience with inexpensive tires is that initially they're great but within a year or so they'll start to do funny things like create vibrations which make interior panels buzz at certain speeds. Unfortunately I've found that when it comes to tires it seems as though you get what you pay for.
Cheers, Paul.
The four pound weight savings on the front isn't unreasonable but I find it hard to believe they could make the rear tire that large and have it weigh only one pound more than the front never mind that makes it TEN pounds lighter than the GY.
Also, per the specs listed they say revs per mile on the rear is only 702, if this is true it must be significantly taller than the stock GY which revs at 783 per mile. The front revs per mile specs are pretty comparable at 821 vs 816 for the GY.
My experience with inexpensive tires is that initially they're great but within a year or so they'll start to do funny things like create vibrations which make interior panels buzz at certain speeds. Unfortunately I've found that when it comes to tires it seems as though you get what you pay for.
Cheers, Paul.
12-31-2008, 09:36 AM
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The General's website mentions a new silica rubber compound. Silica is basically sand, so I would guess that gives it the better and longer wear. But as some have chimed in, longer wear means less grip. I would think most Z06 owners push their cars at regular intervals.......some on the street, some on the track. This tire would be good for the wife's car, but they're not runflats so that would also be a problem as most wives seem to drive thru corners and pick up nails, screws and other debris on the right hand side tires. Mine came back with a pair of scissors stuck in the side wall, then told me the car was making a "funny noise".
How many out there use their Z's for drifting ? Here's your tire !
How many out there use their Z's for drifting ? Here's your tire !
01-11-2009, 10:14 PM
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OK. I finally got to try these out.
Short version:
Excellent STREET tire! Quiet, soft ride, enough grip.
Long version:
What do you do when it's 2am, your bored and it's 36 degrees out? Sleep?
Hell no! Try out those cheap Czechoslovakian tires on your Z06 of course!
These things are MUCH QUIETER that the stock runflats. Did anyone realize these cars come with a radio...
They have a MUCH softer, compliant ride. Too soft at 32psi; the handling was sloppy and a little unpredictable starting around .8G on on-ramps. Upping the pressure to 38 psi made a huge difference. 1G was a lot more comfortable and the ride was still soft. You could consider these a poor man's street-tuned coil over substitute...
The alignment on my car is -1.2 camber all around. There is quite a bit more yaw 'slop' at turn in with these tires than with the GY runflats. But, there is little under steer. If anything, I think the turn in is better at street speeds. In fact, when at 32psi, it feels like the car wants to over steer. 38 psi was more even(they're rated to 51 psi). They give up grip very gradually with a satisfying and progressive low squeal.
I couldn't resist a few spirited street launches and here they proved to be vastly superior to the GYs. They handled a 3500 rpm launch at 36 degrees reasonable well laying down 20ft of tread with no hint of spinning out of control. I have a 2006 with original shocks and there was NO WHEEL HOP. They also have a much more satisfying 'peal-out' sound. A strong shift to second will break them loose almost as much as the launch; but, it's WAY better than the stockers. Very predictable and controllable. The GYs just don't perform well cold at all and quietly spin as if on ice under that type of launch.
Somebody, not me, should shave these down, lower to 25psi and try them out in the 1/4.
I'm very happy with these so far. My main reason for trying these was to save money for some PS Cups for my next HPDE. I am very pleasantly surprised with the performance.
The only real draw back is that they are not run flats. But, considering the $800 savings, I think I can afford some fix-a-flat and a new TPMS sensor if I have to. I already carry a portable compressor anyway.
I'll update here with a wet skid pad report as soon as it rains.
Short version:
Excellent STREET tire! Quiet, soft ride, enough grip.
Long version:
What do you do when it's 2am, your bored and it's 36 degrees out? Sleep?
Hell no! Try out those cheap Czechoslovakian tires on your Z06 of course!
These things are MUCH QUIETER that the stock runflats. Did anyone realize these cars come with a radio...
They have a MUCH softer, compliant ride. Too soft at 32psi; the handling was sloppy and a little unpredictable starting around .8G on on-ramps. Upping the pressure to 38 psi made a huge difference. 1G was a lot more comfortable and the ride was still soft. You could consider these a poor man's street-tuned coil over substitute...
The alignment on my car is -1.2 camber all around. There is quite a bit more yaw 'slop' at turn in with these tires than with the GY runflats. But, there is little under steer. If anything, I think the turn in is better at street speeds. In fact, when at 32psi, it feels like the car wants to over steer. 38 psi was more even(they're rated to 51 psi
). They give up grip very gradually with a satisfying and progressive low squeal.I couldn't resist a few spirited street launches and here they proved to be vastly superior to the GYs. They handled a 3500 rpm launch at 36 degrees reasonable well laying down 20ft of tread with no hint of spinning out of control. I have a 2006 with original shocks and there was NO WHEEL HOP
. They also have a much more satisfying 'peal-out' sound. A strong shift to second will break them loose almost as much as the launch; but, it's WAY better than the stockers. Very predictable and controllable. The GYs just don't perform well cold at all and quietly spin as if on ice under that type of launch. Somebody, not me, should shave these down, lower to 25psi and try them out in the 1/4.
I'm very happy with these so far. My main reason for trying these was to save money for some PS Cups for my next HPDE. I am very pleasantly surprised with the performance.
The only real draw back is that they are not run flats. But, considering the $800 savings, I think I can afford some fix-a-flat and a new TPMS sensor if I have to. I already carry a portable compressor anyway.
I'll update here with a wet skid pad report as soon as it rains.
Got'em mounted and I'm tracking these things in two weeks.
Some pics.
The rears appear to be putting down about 1/2" less rubber.
Bone
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They handled a 3500 rpm launch at 36 degrees reasonable well laying down 20ft of tread with no hint of spinning out of control. Yes and the V Tread help keep it from going side ways
02-23-2009, 11:02 PM
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Drew the tires ride great (quiet and smooth) and grip very well.
My only issue with them is their appearance. The rears are some 1inch narrower. They might be 325 at the bulge but not at the ground.
They would be perfect for a regular C6 10" rim. I might just make someone a good offer on them.
They did great on the TWS track with no under or over steer. That is a very fast road-course/speedway and it was a cold low 40 degree day. They did fine.
Hope this helps.
Bone
My only issue with them is their appearance. The rears are some 1inch narrower. They might be 325 at the bulge but not at the ground.
They would be perfect for a regular C6 10" rim. I might just make someone a good offer on them.
They did great on the TWS track with no under or over steer. That is a very fast road-course/speedway and it was a cold low 40 degree day. They did fine.
Hope this helps.
Bone
06-08-2009, 12:25 PM
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Drew the tires ride great (quiet and smooth) and grip very well.
My only issue with them is their appearance. The rears are some 1inch narrower. They might be 325 at the bulge but not at the ground.
They would be perfect for a regular C6 10" rim. I might just make someone a good offer on them.
They did great on the TWS track with no under or over steer. That is a very fast road-course/speedway and it was a cold low 40 degree day. They did fine.
Hope this helps.
Bone
My only issue with them is their appearance. The rears are some 1inch narrower. They might be 325 at the bulge but not at the ground.
They would be perfect for a regular C6 10" rim. I might just make someone a good offer on them.
They did great on the TWS track with no under or over steer. That is a very fast road-course/speedway and it was a cold low 40 degree day. They did fine.
Hope this helps.
Bone
any other track day experience with these tires ? Did you hit the max speed of 168?
08-11-2009, 03:40 PM
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I just put a set on my 2008 Z. I only got 9,800 out of the Goodyears. The backs were past the wear indicators and the front had about 1/32 to go before they hit the wear indicator. I wanted to get away from runflats, my 2003 Z came stock without runflats, so I figures I will just call AAA if I get a flat.
What pressure is everyone running the Generals at? I started at 30 psi but have not had a chance to push them (recovering from back sugery).
What pressure is everyone running the Generals at? I started at 30 psi but have not had a chance to push them (recovering from back sugery).
08-11-2009, 04:22 PM
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The tires were talked about in this thread as well: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...reme-uhps.html
