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Old 06-08-2008, 04:14 PM   #1
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Technical discussions are often difficult to pursue in a public forum and bold statements and generalizations tend to win out over detailed analysis and nuances. Video is a powerful tool and clearly this video dispels any doubt about our coil overs.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to recreate the accident that Just J had. But it is possible to recreate the controlled conditions of a "rail road tie test" and so, enjoy the attached video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orA27s9SpHM

We have proven that the GM factory shock mount on the C6 Z06 will survive running over an actual railroad tie at over 30 mph with our coil overs installed. We have also proven that this “test” is the worst intentional treatment I have ever done to any car.

I stated before in an earlier post that turning an accident into a brand battle was an exercise in stupidity. Driving a Corvette over a railroad tie at 30 mph is the culmination of that stupidity.

But if it’s ever something you endeavor to try in your Corvette, rest assured that your Pfadt coil overs (and sway bars!) are in fact engineered and proven to handle it. In addition, the GM shock mount IS STRONG ENOUGH for coil overs.

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Old 06-08-2008, 04:34 PM   #2
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Thanks Aaron i have been watching this topic closely. I feel for you and your staff for having to do this!!
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:38 PM   #3
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Hopefully the circus here hasn't taken away your ability to take my order for a set of Pfadt coil overs and comp sway bars on Monday.

I like my LG LT headers, but I'm going with the Pfadt coilover design for my suspension. Lou scares me a bit, frankly.
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #4
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I'll be sporting pfadt coilovers this next weekend at miller. Can't wait to see how they perform
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Aaron, this is the third season I have had your coilovers and sway bars on my car with no issues and I am still very happy with them. Good test...keep on engineering!
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My set will be getting ordered this week for my TT build. Hoping they really help with straight line traction!
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Had the Pfadt coilovers on my 2006 and 2008 Z06. The cars get lots of agressive driving and the coilovers work great.
Keep up the great work!

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QMS just put mine in!
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It is IMPOSSIBLE to recreate the accident that Just J had. But it is possible to recreate the controlled conditions of a "rail road tie test" and so, enjoy the attached video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orA27s9SpHM
As I said in the other thread, kudos for standing behind your products to the extent you'd subject a car to this kind of abuse. For the record, I am not planning on moving away from my Pfadt coilovers.

But I beg every other vendor of coil-overs - if you're gonna recreate my accident, please don't post the videos where I can see 'em - it just keeps stirring up the nightmares.
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Here is a photo of the rail road tie:



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i hope this isn't a silly question but how many times did you run over the log...
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:40 PM   #13
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i hope this isn't a silly question but how many times did you run over the log...
One more time than any rational person would have.

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One more time than any rational person would have.

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haha...alright, you got me
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In addition, the GM shock mount IS STRONG ENOUGH for coil overs.

-Aaron
At least on your (and LG's) car ... but obviously not on Just J's car.

Here' my thought on this.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=457

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Nice job Aaron. I've had your product (coilovers and sways) on my car for 1 1/2 years now and they have performed great! As I said in an earlier post - good product, reasonable price, and excellent service before and after the sale.

Can we please get everyone to stop running over rail road ties now?
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Nice job Aaron. I've had your product (coilovers and sways) on my car for 1 1/2 years now and they have performed great! As I said in an earlier post - good product, reasonable price, and excellent service before and after the sale.

Can we please get everyone to stop running over rail road ties now?
now, back to our regular program.....
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Here! Here!! Great job Aaron. Love my coilovers and pfatty sways. As you may or may not have noticed, I have not posted on the other thread. Pro or Con!!! But since you took the time an effort to do a test I feel obligated to say that I have had the greatest confidence in your product, help and customer support. I feel that all the Just Js incident proves, is that anything can fail under the right circumstances. And that one failure does not mean there is a problem with the car or the suspension. The sky is falling, the sky is falling, OH! Sorry thats an other thread. Great company, product and people. JD
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Were puttingeverything on a 06 Z06 in the shop now. Good stuff.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:44 PM   #20
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So that's a C6RR Did Onstar phone and tell you to get off the tracks. Sorry for the humor. I think that the news media has got us all into super sensational mode so that when a single failure occurs it is a leading story on the forum and then the wild engineering speculation starts followed by looking for a manufacture to blame. Stuff happens and parts fail, OEM and aftermarket. I personally respect both Aaron Pfadt and Lou for taking the risks of developing products to enhance our cars. Whoever has either set of coilovers on their car is certainly not at a higher risk of a mount failure than the OEM shocks, so this should not be part of the decision of adding coilovers for improved performance.
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