[Z06] My Engine Blew at 2600 miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My Engine Blew at 2600 miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted to take the time to let the forum know that my brand new 2006 Corvette Z06 blew an engine at 2600 miles.
I was attending a drivers education event at Summit Point WV with a sanctioned club. (NOT A TIMED EVENT!!!!!!!!) While shifting from third to forth gear doing about a 100 MPH on the straight away I noticed a low oil pressure warning from the computer. I immediately let off the gas pedal and decreased speed untill I could safely pull off. Before I could shut down the engine, the engine was shutting down on its own. Radiator fluid was shooting out the drivers side reservoir and I knew at this point I had a serious problem on my hands. After the car cooled down following a long period of time I attempted to start the engine. Bad noise and plenty of white smoke came from my car, I knew I was screwed. Stuck in WV I live in PA and did not trailer the car. I called GM for assistance, they were only willing to tow w/in 20 miles (gee, what assistance). With a problem this severe I wanted the Dealership I purchased the car from to take care of this situation, (maybe I would have a little more pull with them). I was fortunate to have the use of a fellow drivers trailer. The Vette barley fit, and I was nervous the whole time returning to PA. watching the trailer sway from side to side. I made it.
The rest of the story gets worse from here.
I am very upset with the way GM has handled and is still currently taking care of my problem. I have already been accused of racing, After they had replaced the engine and only after I talked to an attorney. They explained that they replaced the engine in goodwill. The repair took 29 days in the shop. Just shy of the 30 day PA state lemon law (imagine that?), may I add no offer of a loaner vehicle.
All I asked for in consideration for this very difficult situation was the same warranty that they are now giving away to 2007 owners to restore some sense of my confidence in my vehicle. They refused. I then explained that this incident devalued my car, to which they said that was a matter of opinion a total contradiction when The same GM dealership sales Dept. already told me they would offer me $62000.00 for the car if I wanted an 2007 for a trade in. I told them I paid $80000.00 less then 7 months before ($5000.00 over MSRP) The Sales manager told me I was lucky to get that because he would have to explain the engine replacement to the next person that would consider purchasing this car. Proof that my car had indeed been devalued. He then suggested to my surprise that I seek legal consel. I did! This whole messy situation could have been avoided if GM knew how to take care of an upper scale type of clientel such as a Vette owner willing to pay in upwards of $75k for a car. I can say w/ no hesitation that I am treated in a far different way w/regard to my two BMW's. After a recall on the engine of my 2002 BMW M3 I was voluntarily given a 5 year 100,000 mile extended warranty. I am also given the keys to another BMW for transportation while my cars are in the shop for any length of time, in or out of warranty!
I hope this story helps some of you to come to your own conclusions.
I will keep the forum informed of the outcome to all this.
Sorry if I was so long winded but I felt there was a need to take this time to inform those who might care!!!!!!
I was attending a drivers education event at Summit Point WV with a sanctioned club. (NOT A TIMED EVENT!!!!!!!!) While shifting from third to forth gear doing about a 100 MPH on the straight away I noticed a low oil pressure warning from the computer. I immediately let off the gas pedal and decreased speed untill I could safely pull off. Before I could shut down the engine, the engine was shutting down on its own. Radiator fluid was shooting out the drivers side reservoir and I knew at this point I had a serious problem on my hands. After the car cooled down following a long period of time I attempted to start the engine. Bad noise and plenty of white smoke came from my car, I knew I was screwed. Stuck in WV I live in PA and did not trailer the car. I called GM for assistance, they were only willing to tow w/in 20 miles (gee, what assistance). With a problem this severe I wanted the Dealership I purchased the car from to take care of this situation, (maybe I would have a little more pull with them). I was fortunate to have the use of a fellow drivers trailer. The Vette barley fit, and I was nervous the whole time returning to PA. watching the trailer sway from side to side. I made it.
The rest of the story gets worse from here.
I am very upset with the way GM has handled and is still currently taking care of my problem. I have already been accused of racing, After they had replaced the engine and only after I talked to an attorney. They explained that they replaced the engine in goodwill. The repair took 29 days in the shop. Just shy of the 30 day PA state lemon law (imagine that?), may I add no offer of a loaner vehicle.
All I asked for in consideration for this very difficult situation was the same warranty that they are now giving away to 2007 owners to restore some sense of my confidence in my vehicle. They refused. I then explained that this incident devalued my car, to which they said that was a matter of opinion a total contradiction when The same GM dealership sales Dept. already told me they would offer me $62000.00 for the car if I wanted an 2007 for a trade in. I told them I paid $80000.00 less then 7 months before ($5000.00 over MSRP) The Sales manager told me I was lucky to get that because he would have to explain the engine replacement to the next person that would consider purchasing this car. Proof that my car had indeed been devalued. He then suggested to my surprise that I seek legal consel. I did! This whole messy situation could have been avoided if GM knew how to take care of an upper scale type of clientel such as a Vette owner willing to pay in upwards of $75k for a car. I can say w/ no hesitation that I am treated in a far different way w/regard to my two BMW's. After a recall on the engine of my 2002 BMW M3 I was voluntarily given a 5 year 100,000 mile extended warranty. I am also given the keys to another BMW for transportation while my cars are in the shop for any length of time, in or out of warranty!
I hope this story helps some of you to come to your own conclusions.
I will keep the forum informed of the outcome to all this.
Sorry if I was so long winded but I felt there was a need to take this time to inform those who might care!!!!!!
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Sounds like a bad relationship with the dealer for starters. What amazes me about Chevrolet is that the car is marketed as a detuned race car. They praize its performance in 0-60, 1/4 mile and brilliant top speeds. The car is always promoted as a performance use car. The DVD that comes with the car shows it screaming around a track at over a G and roasting the tires off the car.
My understanding from talking to a few engineers at GM was that as long as the cars did not have a roll cage and significantly modified that any drivetrain problems would be covered. GM has always encouraged "back yard", weekend warrior racers. We are the ones that make GM look good.
I'm sure there will be more support as this thread unfolds!
My understanding from talking to a few engineers at GM was that as long as the cars did not have a roll cage and significantly modified that any drivetrain problems would be covered. GM has always encouraged "back yard", weekend warrior racers. We are the ones that make GM look good.
I'm sure there will be more support as this thread unfolds!
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Dave Hill says in the DVD that comes with the car, this car can be driven to the race track, raced and then driven home ( I don't remember the exact words). If he endorsed this, then why is GM denying warrantee claims, this doesn't make any sense at all?
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I'm sorry about the trouble you're going through. That sucks the big'n. But as others have said, I think there's more to this.
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I had mine lock up at 3,828 miles just cruising on the interstate at a steading 71 mph @ 1,650 rpm.
It's unfortunate and I know what your going through, as far as having a new engine put in your car.
It should have been done without involving the lawyers though.
you were supposed to get a loaner car though.
It's unfortunate and I know what your going through, as far as having a new engine put in your car.
It should have been done without involving the lawyers though.
you were supposed to get a loaner car though.
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I'm a Nationally certified Porche Driving instructor and have been performance driving for almost 15 years. I know how to shift!
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you might have missed the part where I explained this was not a timed event. I did nothing to cause this! your easily satisfied.
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I think it all comes down to the dealers attitude. They can most likely process the warranty as they see fit. There has been too much diversity in how claims are handled.
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First of all, sorry about your incident. That's an awful feeling being stranded from home. I know how you felt with the trailer swaying which is why I always recommend those looking to tow, go with a goose-neck. Understandably you had no choice.
When I posted the story about the Carbon Stickers coming loose in the snorkel last year I also had to be towed and was only offered a ride to the closest dealership which wasn't my first choice, but fair. I chose to foot the bill and have it delivered to my dealership.
Everyone keeps talking about GM but the truth is the service dept. makes the call and GM simply backs them up. A good service director is key and unfortunately a rarity.
As far as you requesting a new warranty, I think you expect too much.
I own a 2006 Z06 as well and would love the 100K coverage but all Z06 buyers knew the policy on purchase. If HP is ever increased in future models do we deserve the new engine?
As far as your car being devalued, I wouldn't put too much stock in what the dealership offered you for your car, they are vultures. Should you really want to sell your car I'm sure you can get more for it even with the repair history.
They replaced your engine. Great!
I can't blame you for being aggravated as I can see this was no fun. It sounds like you're still mad and looking to settle a score by venting here. I have over 10,000 miles on my car with 1/2 of them being on the track. My car has also been driven hard by professional racers and it's still feels like it has 1 mile on it.
Have you left any other details out? Your driving skills. Maybe something you did inadvertantly? The engine is replaced. What other actions are required?
Mike
When I posted the story about the Carbon Stickers coming loose in the snorkel last year I also had to be towed and was only offered a ride to the closest dealership which wasn't my first choice, but fair. I chose to foot the bill and have it delivered to my dealership.
Everyone keeps talking about GM but the truth is the service dept. makes the call and GM simply backs them up. A good service director is key and unfortunately a rarity.
As far as you requesting a new warranty, I think you expect too much.
I own a 2006 Z06 as well and would love the 100K coverage but all Z06 buyers knew the policy on purchase. If HP is ever increased in future models do we deserve the new engine?
As far as your car being devalued, I wouldn't put too much stock in what the dealership offered you for your car, they are vultures. Should you really want to sell your car I'm sure you can get more for it even with the repair history.
They replaced your engine. Great!
I can't blame you for being aggravated as I can see this was no fun. It sounds like you're still mad and looking to settle a score by venting here. I have over 10,000 miles on my car with 1/2 of them being on the track. My car has also been driven hard by professional racers and it's still feels like it has 1 mile on it.
Have you left any other details out? Your driving skills. Maybe something you did inadvertantly? The engine is replaced. What other actions are required?
Mike
Last edited by Short-Throw; 02-10-2007 at 12:21 PM.
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My opinion is this was an oiling problem. I assume you mean #3 crank bearing. When you lose oil pressure it is a crank bearing. once you see a low oil pressure light it is too late. I had race cars with lights that shined in my eyes when oil pressure got below 70 PSI under race conditions and I still could not get off the gas and save the engine. Once a crank bearing smears, the motor is history. Sorry for your problems.
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To instill the confidence I needed at that time. I originally paid for a 5 year 36k extended warranty, imagine how I felt after GM started giving a far better warranty months later on the 2007's. I think it ridiculous that I was refused considering there is no chance in hell I will even make it to 36k in 5 years anyhow.
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Just because it wasnt "timed" does not mean someone wasn't racing ***** to the walls. My point is, when someone mentions the word "race track", that sets off all kinds of warning signals.
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To instill the confidence I needed at that time. I originally paid for a 5 year 36k extended warranty, imagine how I felt after GM started giving a far better warranty months later on the 2007's. I think it ridiculous that I was refused considering there is no chance in hell I will even make it to 36k in 5 years anyhow.