[Z06] MPH mag review of z06 on paddle shift...
08-30-2005, 12:55 PM
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MPH mag review of z06 on paddle shift...
says, "the z06 will get a paddle shift manumatic transmission option like the euro snobs to go with the standard 6 speed manual."
08-30-2005, 01:04 PM
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The official GM line is : At this time there is no Auto planned for the Z.
Hell ... plans change daily.
If the paddle shift is ready and able by '07 or '08 .... it might find its way into the car. One thing is for sure ... vette owners love autos and verts. And they will complain till they get them.
Hell ... plans change daily.
If the paddle shift is ready and able by '07 or '08 .... it might find its way into the car. One thing is for sure ... vette owners love autos and verts. And they will complain till they get them.
08-30-2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by E55er
says, "the z06 will get a paddle shift manumatic transmission option like the euro snobs to go with the standard 6 speed manual."
08-30-2005, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by E55er
says, "the z06 will get a paddle shift manumatic transmission option like the euro snobs to go with the standard 6 speed manual."
08-30-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GeneCamaro
I'd prefer they put in those rumored ceramic brakes into the car for next year.
I also haven't meet many people that do not like them, especially on the street, including a high up Porsche engineer.
08-31-2005, 12:40 AM
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One of the missions for the Gen II Z is to compete effectively against the european car markers and what not a better way to do so than with a true paddle shift option. My feeling will be the Z will arrive with a higher end, different clutch driven system than is currently being used for the C6. I'm good with disputing these comments which makes for good reading, but please don't come back with kinda old, "real men shift stuff". ZonaZ. 
08-31-2005, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MAJ Z06
Not rumored, Dave Hill said they could not get them down to the price they wanted. I think the main problem is quality control. One of the last technical articles I read said Brembo has a QC failure rate of 50% on the rotors! I also haven't meet many people that do not like them, especially on the street, including a high up Porsche engineer.
I also haven't meet many people that do not like them, especially on the street, including a high up Porsche engineer.
They're for racing, not for the street. On the street you won't get your brake temperatures up high enough for them to grab effectively. You'd wind up blowing $10,000 for brakes that perform worse.
08-31-2005, 08:45 AM
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Would love to see more sequential shifters and SMG-type setups available. Guess we'll see.
I have ceramic brakes (PCCB)on my Turbo S. In dry conditions, they grab really well and fade less, but in a torrential rain they are far worse than iron brakes. PCCB are part of the Turbo S package, and my Turbo S only cost a little more than my standard Turbo did. Bottom line- if I had to pay the $20-30K that a ceramic setup costs, I'd never do it. Why? There's alot that goes into good brakes, not just pads, calipers and rotors. Using a better fluid, ensuring optimal ventilation and steel braided brake lines improve any setup out there. Given the high repair and replacement costs relative to any marginal improvement in performance, my verdict is that at this point in time ceramic brakes are a low priority in the engineering/performance equation. They are pretty, though. . .
I have ceramic brakes (PCCB)on my Turbo S. In dry conditions, they grab really well and fade less, but in a torrential rain they are far worse than iron brakes. PCCB are part of the Turbo S package, and my Turbo S only cost a little more than my standard Turbo did. Bottom line- if I had to pay the $20-30K that a ceramic setup costs, I'd never do it. Why? There's alot that goes into good brakes, not just pads, calipers and rotors. Using a better fluid, ensuring optimal ventilation and steel braided brake lines improve any setup out there. Given the high repair and replacement costs relative to any marginal improvement in performance, my verdict is that at this point in time ceramic brakes are a low priority in the engineering/performance equation. They are pretty, though. . .
08-31-2005, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scissors
They're for racing, not for the street. On the street you won't get your brake temperatures up high enough for them to grab effectively. You'd wind up blowing $10,000 for brakes that perform worse.
08-31-2005, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Actually, you have it backwards. The new PCCB brakes on Porsches are great on the street (new pads have great cold friction), it's amateur racing/tracking where they are a waste of money. They have a very short lifespan on the track and a 5-figure replacement cost for the rotors...
Don't challenge him .... he has never admitted to having his FACTS backwards.
08-31-2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Actually, you have it backwards.
08-31-2005, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bernrex
Don't challenge him .... he has never admitted to having his FACTS backwards.
08-31-2005, 03:00 PM
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Porsche Rotors off a GT3 996. and these was one of the big 1.4" thick, not like the 1.2" think ones we see on most cars. Four hours of track use, warm up and race. CRACKKKKKKEEEDDD
