[Z06] options and weight, performance
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options and weight, performance
Does anyone have any information on the weight of the C6 Z06 option packages, 1lz v. 2lz, or individual options, like the premium audio and/or navigation system options?
Granted, the car hasn't been produced yet so curb weights of vehicles optioned differently aren't available yet, but some of the options (like the Bose premium audio system) are available today in the 2005 C6.
+/- 25lbs might sound silly to some, but remember that second to the LS6, the C5 Z06's performance is due to weight savings. Thinner windshield, light-weight battery, titanium exhaust.. all of these measures saved 36lbs vs. the '00 C5 FRC.
Also, the 2004 commemorative Z06 weighs only 10.6lbs less than the standard Z06... yet cost $4,335 more.
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Granted, the car hasn't been produced yet so curb weights of vehicles optioned differently aren't available yet, but some of the options (like the Bose premium audio system) are available today in the 2005 C6.
+/- 25lbs might sound silly to some, but remember that second to the LS6, the C5 Z06's performance is due to weight savings. Thinner windshield, light-weight battery, titanium exhaust.. all of these measures saved 36lbs vs. the '00 C5 FRC.
Also, the 2004 commemorative Z06 weighs only 10.6lbs less than the standard Z06... yet cost $4,335 more.
-ag
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Excellent question. Weight savings is an important part of any performance car's actual results.
When I ordered my Lotus Elise, this information was already available so intelligent decisions could be made. Also, weights were also known for items such as seats, wheels, etc. so you knew what you were gaining by going aftermarket.
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Excellent question. Weight savings is an important part of any performance car's actual results.
When I ordered my Lotus Elise, this information was already available so intelligent decisions could be made. Also, weights were also known for items such as seats, wheels, etc. so you knew what you were gaining by going aftermarket.
Marc
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While not exactly what you are looking for this might help, The options should have the same weight as they did this year and the base weight has been posted a few time so you might be able to calculate fairly closely the new weight.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...20&forum_id=74
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...20&forum_id=74
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> While not exactly what you are looking for this might help, The options should have
> the same weight as they did this year and the base weight has been posted a few
> time so you might be able to calculate fairly closely the new weight.
> http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sho...220&forum_id=74
Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't see the weight of any of the options or the base weight in the referenced post.
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> the same weight as they did this year and the base weight has been posted a few
> time so you might be able to calculate fairly closely the new weight.
> http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sho...220&forum_id=74
Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't see the weight of any of the options or the base weight in the referenced post.
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I wouldn't hold much expectation for getting a measurable performance increase by omitting options that might save 25 pounds.
You can save 25 pounds by running four fewer gallons of fuel.
In a C5 Z06, a weight change of 100 pounds would move the ET one tenth of a second, one car-length at a 120 trap.
I've run at the drags with minimal fuel and with half a tank or more. The performance difference I found was much more connected to how well I drove the runs. The fastest runs I made with the car were often with more fuel than I should have carried.
So, suggest you option the car to fit your comfort and convenience needs, and then learn to drive it well.
Ranger
You can save 25 pounds by running four fewer gallons of fuel.
In a C5 Z06, a weight change of 100 pounds would move the ET one tenth of a second, one car-length at a 120 trap.
I've run at the drags with minimal fuel and with half a tank or more. The performance difference I found was much more connected to how well I drove the runs. The fastest runs I made with the car were often with more fuel than I should have carried.
So, suggest you option the car to fit your comfort and convenience needs, and then learn to drive it well.
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Any new information available on the weight of the packages and options?
Have seen 14lbs mentioned in other threads; anybody know the source of this information?
-ag
Have seen 14lbs mentioned in other threads; anybody know the source of this information?
-ag
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Originally Posted by antigrav
Any new information available on the weight of the packages and options?
Have seen 14lbs mentioned in other threads; anybody know the source of this information?
-ag
Have seen 14lbs mentioned in other threads; anybody know the source of this information?
-ag
As you can see, its curb weight is only 10 lbs. more than a base Z06, which would be 3,132 lbs. This one is 3,142 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Scissors
Here are the stickers from a 2LZ production Z06 w/ NAV:
As you can see, its curb weight is only 10 lbs. more than a base Z06, which would be 3,132 lbs. This one is 3,142 lbs.
As you can see, its curb weight is only 10 lbs. more than a base Z06, which would be 3,132 lbs. This one is 3,142 lbs.
10-12 # is 1.7-2 gallons of fuel to put things in perspective
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Originally Posted by OCMike
Weight IS important. I am dedicated to dropping 40+ lbs. in anticipation of getting a 2nd year C6 Z06.
My approach, as well. Think of all the carbon fiber we won't have to buy to lighten the cars up.
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Originally Posted by Scissors
Here are the stickers from a 2LZ production Z06 w/ NAV:
As you can see, its curb weight is only 10 lbs. more than a base Z06, which would be 3,132 lbs. This one is 3,142 lbs.
As you can see, its curb weight is only 10 lbs. more than a base Z06, which would be 3,132 lbs. This one is 3,142 lbs.
<-- not cool, BLIND!
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weigth estimate
Originally Posted by Tom Steele
Please help a dumb, or unobservant, fellow out. Where is this info in those pictures?
<-- not cool, BLIND!
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Allowable load -423
Estimated vehicle weight 3142
If this placard is from a fully equiped car 2LZ option then the additional options add 10# to the car ...about what one would think for a gps lcd screen, seat heaters, xm and and a drive motor for the steeing column
Hope this helps
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Since most of the 2LZ options are electronic in nature, we should expect the difference between a base car and the loaded 2LZ car to be minimal, 10lbs as Scissors has mentioned. The heater mechanisms I have seen for the Escalade are not major weight adders, the size of the LCD screen for the nav is maybe a 1lb to 2lbs and the electronics behind it are minimal, and the GPS receiver can't be much(look at the handhelds).
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Originally Posted by antigrav
+/- 25lbs might sound silly to some, but remember that second to the LS6, the C5 Z06's performance is due to weight savings. Thinner windshield, light-weight battery, titanium exhaust.. all of these measures saved 36lbs vs. the '00 C5 FRC.
Also, the 2004 commemorative Z06 weighs only 10.6lbs less than the standard Z06... yet cost $4,335 more.
Also, the 2004 commemorative Z06 weighs only 10.6lbs less than the standard Z06... yet cost $4,335 more.
30 lbs is really nothing to worry about. You certainly wouldn't feel it. You should only care if you were building a serious race car, in which case you'd be stripping out the interior anyway.
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Originally Posted by cbgpe
GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) 3565#
Allowable load -423
Estimated vehicle weight 3142
If this placard is from a fully equiped car 2LZ option then the additional options add 10# to the car ...about what one would think for a gps lcd screen, seat heaters, xm and and a drive motor for the steeing column
Hope this helps
Allowable load -423
Estimated vehicle weight 3142
If this placard is from a fully equiped car 2LZ option then the additional options add 10# to the car ...about what one would think for a gps lcd screen, seat heaters, xm and and a drive motor for the steeing column
Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by aharte
30 lbs is really nothing to worry about. You certainly wouldn't feel it. You should only care if you were building a serious race car, in which case you'd be stripping out the interior anyway.
#20
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Originally Posted by Scissors
Of course, in terms of its affect on how easy it is to turn, 30 lbs. removed from 10 feet in front of the rear axle is approximately equivalent to 300 lbs. removed from 1 foot in front of the rear axle.
The front wheels do the turning. What you say would be true for a shopping cart, where the steering device (you) is in the back, but with the front wheels doing the turning, I'm not convinced this is true.
Source?