[Z06] For the Z06 guys that like to dog on the L88
03-01-2005, 10:48 PM
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For the Z06 guys that like to dog on the L88
In the may 2005 issue of corvette enthusiast magazine, they have an article from the pure stock drags.
There is an excerpt at the end of the article about why there were no L88s at the event. But the guy that did show up, had engine trouble(bad bearing) and couldnt race. The year before at the pure stock drags, he was putting down 11.9s, and had before run an 11.6x.
Too combat complaints of cheating the owner of the L88 voluntarily allowed his entire car to be torn down and inspected to be 100% stock. No wonder he lost a bearing huh.
The 1971 LT1 corvette was running 12.6s on the 350/370hp engines.
Just some food for thought.
Dont believe go pick up the magazine.
There is an excerpt at the end of the article about why there were no L88s at the event. But the guy that did show up, had engine trouble(bad bearing) and couldnt race. The year before at the pure stock drags, he was putting down 11.9s, and had before run an 11.6x.
Too combat complaints of cheating the owner of the L88 voluntarily allowed his entire car to be torn down and inspected to be 100% stock. No wonder he lost a bearing huh.
The 1971 LT1 corvette was running 12.6s on the 350/370hp engines.
Just some food for thought.
Dont believe go pick up the magazine.
03-02-2005, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
In the may 2005 issue of corvette enthusiast magazine, they have an article from the pure stock drags.
There is an excerpt at the end of the article about why there were no L88s at the event. But the guy that did show up, had engine trouble(bad bearing) and couldnt race. The year before at the pure stock drags, he was putting down 11.9s, and had before run an 11.6x.
Too combat complaints of cheating the owner of the L88 voluntarily allowed his entire car to be torn down and inspected to be 100% stock. No wonder he lost a bearing huh.
The 1971 LT1 corvette was running 12.6s on the 350/370hp engines.
Just some food for thought.
Dont believe go pick up the magazine.
There is an excerpt at the end of the article about why there were no L88s at the event. But the guy that did show up, had engine trouble(bad bearing) and couldnt race. The year before at the pure stock drags, he was putting down 11.9s, and had before run an 11.6x.
Too combat complaints of cheating the owner of the L88 voluntarily allowed his entire car to be torn down and inspected to be 100% stock. No wonder he lost a bearing huh.
The 1971 LT1 corvette was running 12.6s on the 350/370hp engines.
Just some food for thought.
Dont believe go pick up the magazine.
Look at number 16 on the list
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...s-50fast.shtml
Here is a modified one with a 4:56 rear end, full exhaust on drag slicks driven by a pro drag drag race driver on an NHRA tarck.
03-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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http://www.geocities.com/psmcdr/
theres the website for the event.
http://www.geocities.com/psmcdr/2003...03_results.xls
11.990 from the 1 L88 at the 2003 races.
here is the difference
11.990 on 225/70 tires is pretty quick.
theres the website for the event.
http://www.geocities.com/psmcdr/2003...03_results.xls
11.990 from the 1 L88 at the 2003 races.
here is the difference
Tires & Wheels: Reproduction tires or radial tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Use of traction compounds or rubber-softening chemicals on tires are strictly prohibited. Tire size must approximate what was originally installed on the car. All four tires must be the same size. No 60-series tires will be allowed unless they were originally available for the car's year and model. 60-series tires must be run on 15-inch rims as they were originally. Cars built before the introduction of 70-series Polyglas or Wide-Ovals are allowed to upgrade to 70-series tires of appropriate size for the car. Please call for clarification. Suspicious tires will be durometered. Factory wheels only. Wheels must be correct in size, offset, and style for the car's make, model, and year. All four wheels must be the same size and offset.
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03-02-2005, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr turbo rotary
The car was modified. The stock L-88's came with stock iron manifolds and weren't that fast.
03-02-2005, 07:50 AM
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I don't know about ******* the L88, but I do consider it an extremely limited, pure race option, equivalent to being able to buy a C5R from the dealer today. In 3 years of production, only 216 were made, along with 2 ZL1s. And on stock tires, they were only good for mid 13s. Obviously, being on more modern rubber, even in 70 series sizes, changes things. Still, that performance is reachable by the LS1, 2, 6, and 7 series engines, either stock, or with a little work.
03-02-2005, 08:40 AM
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One of the hard choices that faced buyers wanting the fastest factory Corvette in those days was
(1) L-71 (435 HP) with a full warranty or
(2) L-88 (430++ HP) with no warranty on the engine or drive train.
I chose the L-71 because it had a warranty. Good thing too. Broke four fiberglass fan shrouds and one tranny the first two months after the car was delivered. Without a warranty, I'd have been screwed.
Might also add that quite a few bone-stock Z06s have run in the 11s on stock tires. With DRs they're in the mid-11s.
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(1) L-71 (435 HP) with a full warranty or
(2) L-88 (430++ HP) with no warranty on the engine or drive train.
I chose the L-71 because it had a warranty. Good thing too. Broke four fiberglass fan shrouds and one tranny the first two months after the car was delivered. Without a warranty, I'd have been screwed.
Might also add that quite a few bone-stock Z06s have run in the 11s on stock tires. With DRs they're in the mid-11s.
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03-02-2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
I don't know about ******* the L88, but I do consider it an extremely limited, pure race option, equivalent to being able to buy a C5R from the dealer today. In 3 years of production, only 216 were made, along with 2 ZL1s. And on stock tires, they were only good for mid 13s. Obviously, being on more modern rubber, even in 70 series sizes, changes things. Still, that performance is reachable by the LS1, 2, 6, and 7 series engines, either stock, or with a little work.
Stock tires they were only good for mid 13's? Read the below article.
"shutting down the corvette and coasting thru the traps with a 13.49@70.86mph" He missed second gear.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra5.jpg
Read at the bottom. Dyno'ed at 521hp.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra4.jpg
Read fastest ET 11.88@121mph on DOT approved tires. Corvette Fever, January 1993
03-02-2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flood
I dont' think they ever made 216 C5Rs though!
Stock tires they were only good for mid 13's? Read the below article.
"shutting down the corvette and coasting thru the traps with a 13.49@70.86mph" He missed second gear.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra5.jpg
Read at the bottom. Dyno'ed at 521hp.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra4.jpg
Read fastest ET 11.88@121mph on DOT approved tires. Corvette Fever, January 1993
Stock tires they were only good for mid 13's? Read the below article.
"shutting down the corvette and coasting thru the traps with a 13.49@70.86mph" He missed second gear.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra5.jpg
Read at the bottom. Dyno'ed at 521hp.
http://www.corvettearchive.com/image...88vscobra4.jpg
Read fastest ET 11.88@121mph on DOT approved tires. Corvette Fever, January 1993
03-02-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Z064life
I don't think he said there were 216 C5Rs made. He said there were 216 L88 made and 2 ZL1s
03-02-2005, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hans Grüber
They came with dealer installed optional headers from GM.
03-02-2005, 01:35 PM
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Might also add that quite a few bone-stock Z06s have run in the 11s on stock tires. With DRs they're in the mid-11s.
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Ranger ... have you gone to Drag Radials on your Z06, or are you pure stock setup? Whats the best DR for a C5 with 480 FWHP, M6, and 3.90 rear?
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Ranger ... have you gone to Drag Radials on your Z06, or are you pure stock setup? Whats the best DR for a C5 with 480 FWHP, M6, and 3.90 rear?
03-02-2005, 01:54 PM
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It took GM a long time to come up with a more awesome car than The L-88. Having owned one in the 70's and selling before the C-4's came out there was nothing like it on the street or at the track. 
My big mistake was not hanging onto that car!! 
I guess that is why I find the new Z06 very interesting. The L-88 was a grin but didn't provide any luxury and when you started it there was no doubt that horsepower was here no stealth about it. Those side mount headers were delivered in that car new, in a box, in the passenger seat. The car was sold through a motorcycle dealer to kill the warranty. 
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03-02-2005, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bernrex
...Ranger ... have you gone to Drag Radials on your Z06, or are you pure stock setup? Whats the best DR for a C5 with 480 FWHP, M6, and 3.90 rear?
(1) bone stock, zero-mods everything factory spec with stock tires;353 rwhp
(2) bone stock except an aftermarket cold-air intake (Halltech Tric) and drag radials; 363 rwhp
My DR experience is with
(1) BFG Comp/TA 315.35.17s. Very consistent average of low 1.7 60'
(2) MT ET Street Radials 275.40.17s. Puts more 60' in the 1.6s than the BFGs do. Definitely harder on the clutch because they require a higher (+500-1000) launch rpm than the BFGs.
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03-02-2005, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EV2DEMON
Perhaps, but dealer installed options are not legal for the Pure Stock Drag racing series.
BTW the L88 was never built for drag racing so it would not matter anyways.
03-02-2005, 05:01 PM
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Yeah, wasn't the ZR-1's one of the slowest car's every produced by GM. They sure did suck. Plus, they were so unreliable. Didn't have anything for those old L-88's with headers and slicks, or the Cobra for that matter. Slow, slow, slow.
In addition, I think in 1990, they were one of the slowest production cars available at the time. Yep, OVERRATED!
In addition, I think in 1990, they were one of the slowest production cars available at the time. Yep, OVERRATED!
Originally Posted by bernrex
Don't knock it .... 12.5 @ 112 isn't too bad.
And it sure beat the 427 Cobra by a good margin.
Its the ZR1 that is overrated ... not the L88 ... IMO.
And it sure beat the 427 Cobra by a good margin.
Its the ZR1 that is overrated ... not the L88 ... IMO.
03-02-2005, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bernrex
Don't knock it .... 12.5 @ 112 isn't too bad.
And it sure beat the 427 Cobra by a good margin.
Its the ZR1 that is overrated ... not the L88 ... IMO.
And it sure beat the 427 Cobra by a good margin.
Its the ZR1 that is overrated ... not the L88 ... IMO.
I would really like to believe this post was a joke......but I think I'm going to vomit repeatedly.
Good gosh, I won't even bother, I know the other ZR-1 junkies will/already beat me to it.
