Oddball "cause" of Check Engine light... comments?
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Oddball "cause" of Check Engine light... comments?
To rehash, the Check Engine light came on in my C6 with about 10 miles on the odometer, then later that day I noticed that the cruise control wouldn't engage.
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
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Ask them what trouble code was in the system. I'll look it up in the service manual and will be able to tell if you were given a line of B.S.
If that is true, you should be able to duplicate again.
And if they ran the battery down, that person has no business touching a Corvette. That reverse deal has been communicated to dealers numerous times, if they missed that point they are clueless to any other C6 feature.
If that is true, you should be able to duplicate again.
And if they ran the battery down, that person has no business touching a Corvette. That reverse deal has been communicated to dealers numerous times, if they missed that point they are clueless to any other C6 feature.
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Doesn't sound right to me. Would they really design something that would cause a check engine or SES light whenever someone doesn't fully engage a gear and it pops out of gear... or does what a lot of people do; go to neutral without using the clutch? Sounds fishy, or else there are going to be a lot of check engine lights out there.
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You need to add a line to the estimate that states "no more than 2 miles of driving to confirm repair"... if they can't do enough starts, stops, accelerations/brakings to figure it out in 2 miles of city driving... then someone is out getting burgers and showing off *your* car to their buddies or girlfriend!
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Originally Posted by Michrider
Ask them what trouble code was in the system. I'll look it up in the service manual....
Thanks for your advice,
Erik
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Originally Posted by cam30era
By any chance did you notice any problem with your fuel gage or did you get an error message on your DIC "Service Fuel System"?
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Originally Posted by djhartm
Crown Chevrolet in Dublin put 11 miles on my C6 while getting the left fuel sensor replaced.
I sent them an email this AM asking WTF?
I sent them an email this AM asking WTF?
At least the "OK to Ship" plastic wrap was still on the seats.
-Erik
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Service manuals can be ordered from Helm. 1-800-551-4123. Not sure if the '05 paper manual is ready yet. That usually comes out a couple months after the car. The ordering info is in the back of your owner's manual. Dealers use the electronic version on-line, which is out now. Through a friend I can get the online info if you need a code checked.
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Originally Posted by CADreamingVette
Sounds like I will be crossing Mossey off of my dealer list for repairs. Is there any dealer that ACTUALLY does a good job out there? GEEZ!
To answer your question... NO (but if you find anyone who does, please let me know!)
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Originally Posted by Erik_In_Carlsbad
To rehash, the Check Engine light came on in my C6 with about 10 miles on the odometer, then later that day I noticed that the cruise control wouldn't engage.
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
I won't hurt anything, and if the light comes on again, just reset it, learn from the experience, and get on with your life.
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They designed and made the car so they should be able to fix it one would think that Also better check your radio stations settings or for cigarette ashes in car or anything else out of the ordinary.
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Originally Posted by wwashing
Well, it certainly is easy to see if they are lying to you. WHY DON"T YOU JUST DO IT AGAIN?
I won't hurt anything, and if the light comes on again, just reset it, learn from the experience, and get on with your life.
I won't hurt anything, and if the light comes on again, just reset it, learn from the experience, and get on with your life.
Then curiosity got the best of me. I popped the C6 from 6th into neutral, and coasted from 80 down to almost a full stop.
Result: No check engine light, and most importantly, no visit back to Mossy.
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Another Oddball Check Engine Light I had years ago:
On my '84 S-10 Blazer, my check engine light would come on everytime I drove home. It turned out that sunlight was getting in under the dash, and, by chance, it lit up the check engine light area on the speedo/tach panel! It only occurred at that time of day, and in that particular direction, related to the sun.
I like my problem/explanation better than yours. Mine was fixed with a piece of opaque tape in the right place.
On my '84 S-10 Blazer, my check engine light would come on everytime I drove home. It turned out that sunlight was getting in under the dash, and, by chance, it lit up the check engine light area on the speedo/tach panel! It only occurred at that time of day, and in that particular direction, related to the sun.
I like my problem/explanation better than yours. Mine was fixed with a piece of opaque tape in the right place.
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Originally Posted by Erik_In_Carlsbad
To rehash, the Check Engine light came on in my C6 with about 10 miles on the odometer, then later that day I noticed that the cruise control wouldn't engage.
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
Mossy Chevrolet in Encinitas, CA told me that the cause was due to shifting into neutral without engaging the clutch and a subsequent decrease in vehicle speed of >35MPH.
While I may well have made such a shift from 6th to neutral while coasting up a freeway offramp, I really don't understand how this action would be tied to the Check Engine light, and why it would cause the light to remain on long after the incident.
The Mossy folks reset the light and put about 15 miles on my C6 while "testing" it. It hasn't come back on again.
Is this ? Does anyone have any insight into this problem?
And now, as I slide faster into rant mode... I scheduled a Tuesday AM service appointment with Mossy so that their one trained technician could get his first shot at working on a C6. The car sat there all day Tuesday; when I checked up on it this morning, my service advisor confessed that they were in "a little dillemma": seems that they failed to put the car in reverse, which ran down the battery, and resulted in them being locked out of the car. After I ran the emergency key down to them, they were able to recharge the dead battery (hmm, maybe that's one way to reset an error code) and get the car back to me this afternoon. I have these bad visions of someone there trying to Slim Jim the door right about when I called...
But, back in the C6 after 36 hours of deprivation, I'm doing better
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I noticed in the "Rebuilding an Icon" C6 show on the Discovery Channel when they showed the speedo on a high speed run, the check engine light was on. Just an observation.
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Originally Posted by Erik_In_Carlsbad
You'll notice that I drove right past Weseloh on my way to see Mossy in Encinitas... Weseloh has done, uh, wonders on my C5.
To answer your question... NO (but if you find anyone who does, please let me know!)
To answer your question... NO (but if you find anyone who does, please let me know!)
Erik, was that you on La Costa Ave. Sunday PM?