427 Won't Start and Stuck in Accessory Mode
#1
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427 Won't Start and Stuck in Accessory Mode
It's been a long time since I have been in here. I hope some of the bright guys who used to be here are still around and can help me out.
About two weeks ago, I had my 427 out all day, came home and parked it in the garage with no issues. Monday I tried to start it and it was stone dead. I metered the battery and it read 0V. I tried to jump it and even let it sit attached to the jump car for nearly an hour. First attempt to start, it just clicked. Second or third attempt it clicked again but wouldn't stop even with me turning the ignition switch off. The last attempt, I noticed that the car was stuck in accessory mode and the theft indicator on the dash was steady on. The car wouldn't start and I couldn't turn it off. I had to disconnect the battery.
The next morning, I got a new car battery assuming that would solve the issue. It didn't. The car is still stuck in accessory mode and won't start nor shut off. I have tried both FOBs with fresh batteries both on me and in the FOB holder in the glovebox. Still the same.
I found an old post here where someone had a similar issue and resolved it by removing the fuse for the ECM (56), disconnecting the battery, wait 15 minutes, reconnect battery, reinstall fuse. Still nothing.
I tried an OBD2 reader to pick up any codes but there were none stored.
The last mechanic I spoke to had no idea and had a call in to a Corvette expert but that was 2 days ago and he still has no answer.
I have searched and searched for anyone with a similar issue and haven't found anything that has helped. I am hoping someone here can offer a suggestion before I end up having to flatbed the car to a dealer and then be stuck at their mercy for whatever they come up with. Thanks in advance for any help!
About two weeks ago, I had my 427 out all day, came home and parked it in the garage with no issues. Monday I tried to start it and it was stone dead. I metered the battery and it read 0V. I tried to jump it and even let it sit attached to the jump car for nearly an hour. First attempt to start, it just clicked. Second or third attempt it clicked again but wouldn't stop even with me turning the ignition switch off. The last attempt, I noticed that the car was stuck in accessory mode and the theft indicator on the dash was steady on. The car wouldn't start and I couldn't turn it off. I had to disconnect the battery.
The next morning, I got a new car battery assuming that would solve the issue. It didn't. The car is still stuck in accessory mode and won't start nor shut off. I have tried both FOBs with fresh batteries both on me and in the FOB holder in the glovebox. Still the same.
I found an old post here where someone had a similar issue and resolved it by removing the fuse for the ECM (56), disconnecting the battery, wait 15 minutes, reconnect battery, reinstall fuse. Still nothing.
I tried an OBD2 reader to pick up any codes but there were none stored.
The last mechanic I spoke to had no idea and had a call in to a Corvette expert but that was 2 days ago and he still has no answer.
I have searched and searched for anyone with a similar issue and haven't found anything that has helped. I am hoping someone here can offer a suggestion before I end up having to flatbed the car to a dealer and then be stuck at their mercy for whatever they come up with. Thanks in advance for any help!
#2
Safety Car
It's been a long time since I have been in here. I hope some of the bright guys who used to be here are still around and can help me out.
About two weeks ago, I had my 427 out all day, came home and parked it in the garage with no issues. Monday I tried to start it and it was stone dead. I metered the battery and it read 0V. I tried to jump it and even let it sit attached to the jump car for nearly an hour. First attempt to start, it just clicked. Second or third attempt it clicked again but wouldn't stop even with me turning the ignition switch off. The last attempt, I noticed that the car was stuck in accessory mode and the theft indicator on the dash was steady on. The car wouldn't start and I couldn't turn it off. I had to disconnect the battery.
The next morning, I got a new car battery assuming that would solve the issue. It didn't. The car is still stuck in accessory mode and won't start nor shut off. I have tried both FOBs with fresh batteries both on me and in the FOB holder in the glovebox. Still the same.
I found an old post here where someone had a similar issue and resolved it by removing the fuse for the ECM (56), disconnecting the battery, wait 15 minutes, reconnect battery, reinstall fuse. Still nothing.
I tried an OBD2 reader to pick up any codes but there were none stored.
The last mechanic I spoke to had no idea and had a call in to a Corvette expert but that was 2 days ago and he still has no answer.
I have searched and searched for anyone with a similar issue and haven't found anything that has helped. I am hoping someone here can offer a suggestion before I end up having to flatbed the car to a dealer and then be stuck at their mercy for whatever they come up with. Thanks in advance for any help!
About two weeks ago, I had my 427 out all day, came home and parked it in the garage with no issues. Monday I tried to start it and it was stone dead. I metered the battery and it read 0V. I tried to jump it and even let it sit attached to the jump car for nearly an hour. First attempt to start, it just clicked. Second or third attempt it clicked again but wouldn't stop even with me turning the ignition switch off. The last attempt, I noticed that the car was stuck in accessory mode and the theft indicator on the dash was steady on. The car wouldn't start and I couldn't turn it off. I had to disconnect the battery.
The next morning, I got a new car battery assuming that would solve the issue. It didn't. The car is still stuck in accessory mode and won't start nor shut off. I have tried both FOBs with fresh batteries both on me and in the FOB holder in the glovebox. Still the same.
I found an old post here where someone had a similar issue and resolved it by removing the fuse for the ECM (56), disconnecting the battery, wait 15 minutes, reconnect battery, reinstall fuse. Still nothing.
I tried an OBD2 reader to pick up any codes but there were none stored.
The last mechanic I spoke to had no idea and had a call in to a Corvette expert but that was 2 days ago and he still has no answer.
I have searched and searched for anyone with a similar issue and haven't found anything that has helped. I am hoping someone here can offer a suggestion before I end up having to flatbed the car to a dealer and then be stuck at their mercy for whatever they come up with. Thanks in advance for any help!
#3
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#4
Safety Car
If u have a dvm' check amp draw. Do u know how to do that?? Just put dvm wires in in series with the negative .Battery to volt meter in. Out to ground cable . Yes disconnect negative.
Last edited by helga203; 10-01-2021 at 09:14 AM.
#5
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Although that would be a good idea if the car attempted to start, since the car is stuck in accessory mode and the start switch does absolutely nothing, I don't see how that measurement would reveal anything. Thank you for helping though.
#6
Safety Car
Has nothing to with starting. Put the dvm in series then let the car go into sleep mode and check what the draw is. make sure ur battery is fully chared.
Last edited by helga203; 10-01-2021 at 10:02 AM.
#7
Do the lights and radio work? It still clicks or not? Clicking is a dead battery, voltage or not.
IM not sure if you did this, try pushing the starter switch and holding it on OFF to shut down the car. Then make sure the car turns off? Then holding the starter switch for 2 seconds to start.
IM not sure if you did this, try pushing the starter switch and holding it on OFF to shut down the car. Then make sure the car turns off? Then holding the starter switch for 2 seconds to start.
#8
Safety Car
Automatic or manual?
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
Do the lights and radio work? It still clicks or not? Clicking is a dead battery, voltage or not.
IM not sure if you did this, try pushing the starter switch and holding it on OFF to shut down the car. Then make sure the car turns off? Then holding the starter switch for 2 seconds to start.
IM not sure if you did this, try pushing the starter switch and holding it on OFF to shut down the car. Then make sure the car turns off? Then holding the starter switch for 2 seconds to start.
#10
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#11
2013 427 60th Anniversary model convertibles were available with an Auto trans. You might want to PM C5 Diag, or Bill Curlee, and explain the situation. Maybe the ignition switch, or starter went out, or??? Best of luck to you, and please keep us posted....
#12
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Just tried this. With the car at rest in accessory mode, it is drawing about 6.5A. When attempting to start, the draw goes to 12A. I am not sure how much of that start draw is from the brake lights being on during the start procedure or any processes related to the clutch depressed though. Regardless, the start switch still remains lit in orange and didn't change.
Last edited by NotVincent; 10-01-2021 at 12:05 PM.
#13
Burning Brakes
start chasing wires looking for a short by starter or bad solenoid connection.
then start checking every ground connection. starting w/ motor, then to body
check w ohm meter the alt wire to the starter w battery disconnected.
the factory gauge wire is too small. look for loss.
check all the connections to ecm, bcm
.look for corrsion and make sure pins are fully seated, apply dialectic grease
id also check every fuse and relay for connectivity under hood
its been my experience with gm cars that electrical gremlins like this are usually a bad ground.
or that some harness has rubbed or got burnt and shorted out.
be methodical and patient.
been there done that. spent 12 hrs. once chasing short on ficm harness on 2004.5 duramax...lol
then start checking every ground connection. starting w/ motor, then to body
check w ohm meter the alt wire to the starter w battery disconnected.
the factory gauge wire is too small. look for loss.
check all the connections to ecm, bcm
.look for corrsion and make sure pins are fully seated, apply dialectic grease
id also check every fuse and relay for connectivity under hood
its been my experience with gm cars that electrical gremlins like this are usually a bad ground.
or that some harness has rubbed or got burnt and shorted out.
be methodical and patient.
been there done that. spent 12 hrs. once chasing short on ficm harness on 2004.5 duramax...lol
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#14
Safety Car
Isn’t the ECM fuse 11 in the under hood fuse block?
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#16
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Got it from this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...sory-mode.html
#17
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Yep, I was taking someone else’s word on it in another thread. Checked mine, and you are correct.
Got it from this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...sory-mode.html
Got it from this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...sory-mode.html
#18
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UPDATE - Problem Resolved!
Mechanic tells me that he was able to start the car by simply replacing the battery in the FOB. I find that hard to believe since I put fresh batteries in both FOBs and neither worked. However, he wanted to keep it a day or so to determine what caused the battery draw since he found the battery dead the next morning. Fortunately, they keep cameras on inside their garage and they saw that the car attempted to turn on by itself at 2:30 AM. They keep the keys with the cars but since there was no brake pedal nor clutch depressed, it just turned on to accessory mode and drained the battery. He traced the problem to a faulty start switch. Weirdest thing I have ever heard of.
Mechanic tells me that he was able to start the car by simply replacing the battery in the FOB. I find that hard to believe since I put fresh batteries in both FOBs and neither worked. However, he wanted to keep it a day or so to determine what caused the battery draw since he found the battery dead the next morning. Fortunately, they keep cameras on inside their garage and they saw that the car attempted to turn on by itself at 2:30 AM. They keep the keys with the cars but since there was no brake pedal nor clutch depressed, it just turned on to accessory mode and drained the battery. He traced the problem to a faulty start switch. Weirdest thing I have ever heard of.