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Old 06-17-2016, 05:45 PM
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Default Fuel gauge reads 1/2 when full after E85 pump

Installed E85 fuel pump on my car and now the gauge reads 1/2 when it's actually full??

I installed a new sending unit when I did the pump, is it possible the sending unit OHMS might be different from year to year thus causing the gauge to read only 1/2 when its full.

Very puzzling...
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Yes they swapped how the sensors read for certain years.
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I found a guy that had the same problem that you had found out the hard way.
But there is a fix according to the user. This came from a purchaser from Amazon

NOTE: To anyone putting this on a 2005 Corvette, the fuel level sending unit IS DIFFERENT than an original 2005 one. The readings from it are backwards on the original one vs. this one. If you have access to HP Tuners or EFI Live you can make appropriate changes to make this sensor work. If not, then you will want to use your original fuel level sensor. Otherwise your gauge will read half tank when full.. then when it's almost empty the level will start to increase again.
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That's exactly what we are seeing and funny you posted that as my fuel level sensor and sending unit was from Amazon!
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Will connect to EFI live tonight!
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GM flipped the ohm readings starting in 07.

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I accidentally threw my 05 float away after installing a new assembly out of a Z06. Do you know what needs to be changed in HP tuners? Is it just a band-aid? Or is it spot in after you change it?
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I found a guy that had the same problem that you had found out the hard way.
But there is a fix according to the user. This came from a purchaser from Amazon

NOTE: To anyone putting this on a 2005 Corvette, the fuel level sending unit IS DIFFERENT than an original 2005 one. The readings from it are backwards on the original one vs. this one. If you have access to HP Tuners or EFI Live you can make appropriate changes to make this sensor work. If not, then you will want to use your original fuel level sensor. Otherwise your gauge will read half tank when full.. then when it's almost empty the level will start to increase again.
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Correct.

If you need a copy of the tables I'm using on an 05 with the new style sender PM me your email address.

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I accidentally threw my 05 float away after installing a new assembly out of a Z06. Do you know what needs to be changed in HP tuners? Is it just a band-aid? Or is it spot in after you change it?
It's not a bandaid, it's simply a change. GM changed the sender and the tune accordingly. If you changed the sender.. you need to change the tune.

It works just like normal once the change is made.

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Sweet! PM is on its way.
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Correct.

If you need a copy of the tables I'm using on an 05 with the new style sender PM me your email address.



It's not a bandaid, it's simply a change. GM changed the sender and the tune accordingly. If you changed the sender.. you need to change the tune.

It works just like normal once the change is made.
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No PM received, lol
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Mine works flawless now! Who would have ever guessed! After dropping tanks 2 times and soon to be a 3rd to check it again
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Sorry I got sidetracked. I just PM'd you.
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No PM received, lol
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Another issue...

Car is empty still at 1/2 tank however goes to full when full... Before it would go to empty when it was " full "
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Did you change any of the fuel level tables?
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Patrick Guarra did.

Just went to fill up the car and it took 17 gallons
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Did it ever work properly after that?
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This was the first time finding out. Filled it up tuned the car pick the car up the gauge read 3/4 though awesome it worked! Drove it today it reached 1/2 way and died. Though well that was weird started right back up, drove a few feet and died again.. Hmmmm coasted into a shell and put 1 gallon of 93 ( car is tuned for e85 with flex sensor but had no way of getting to a station with e85 ) the gallon got me back home and I filled up x3- 5 gal jugs car drank all of that ) poured a bottle of bg44k in and gauge said a little over 1/2 full

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The fuel level tables are really weird, so without seeing the tune I can't say if he did it correctly or not. If you change the table headers (which is what GM did if I recall) on one tank it changes them on the other tank too, which is not something I would have expected.

It's very strange..

What Pat or whoever can do is log sender voltage out of each tank individually. Log while filling up from being low on fuel. That will make it obvious whether the senders are working correctly or not...
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Maybe one sender is an old one and one a new one? Don't they both have to be new or old style?
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Originally Posted by jesse82nc
Maybe one sender is an old one and one a new one? Don't they both have to be new or old style?
No, you just have to know how to setup the fuel level tables properly if you're using one new / one old

(that's what I'm running)

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