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Old 07-28-2014, 07:53 PM
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I'm looking at installing a new short throw shifter on my 427 Vert. I know Hurst has been around since I was a kid and I'm sure there are a lot of good products to choose from. I've heard a lot recently about the MPW shifters. I'm looking for real world experience (not a debate) on what you've installed in your rides. Particularly in the 427 / ZO6 genre. Thanks!
Old 07-29-2014, 01:05 AM
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I put a B&M Ripper in my '95 Camaro Z28 a long time ago and it was well built, easy to install/adjust, and was one of the best cheapest mods I did on that car. Went from shifting all wiggly and truck-like to what it should have been. Nice and solid, no play, and nice crisp shifts.

Was going to pretty much consider that in the '05 I recently picked up but opted instead for the MGW based on all the reviews here. That's an interestingly designed shifter but also nice and solid, easy to install, and well supported by the maker. Again, one of the best cheapest mod I have made so far.

My only complaint (not really a complaint) is that the shift pattern is definitely tighter than stock so sometimes, if I'm not really paying attention, I'll put it in 3rd instead of 1st. I have to remember to pull it towards me with more force to make sure it's in 1st. So it's a user-issue, not the shifter's fault.

Nice and solid, a good feel, notchy but like a well-made bolt action rifle. Just a very good piece of machinery. I'd definitely recommend it and would put another one in if I ever got another Corvette.
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Ditto with going to a MGW (due to the dampener assembly), and as for the notchy feeling, single "anti venom" Brass washer to shim the trans indexer detent assembly sightly outward will resolve that notchy feeling.

http://www.toquez06.com/avm.html



Also to note, the new MGW shifters comes with a off set. I lucked out since I have longer arms and got the version just before the current one that has the shaft coming straight up out of the damper instead.

This is the one that I have,


While the new ones have the off set (slightly back to the the left) and comes with the new lower shifter box as well.

http://www.mgwltd.com/corvette_short..._shifter.shtml

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I have installed the MGW and anti venom washer on my 2011 GS vert and am very pleased with those changes.
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Isn't the factory MZ6 option that is on all Corvettes with the LS7, LS9, and LS3 w/Dry Sump Engine a Close-Ratio Transmission with Short Throw shifter?
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Originally Posted by jsucraig
Isn't the factory MZ6 option that is on all Corvettes with the LS7, LS9, and LS3 w/Dry Sump Engine a Close-Ratio Transmission with Short Throw shifter?
Not sure about the ratios, but I believe they are all short throw shifters. It's the quality of the shifter that makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by jsucraig
Isn't the factory MZ6 option that is on all Corvettes with the LS7, LS9, and LS3 w/Dry Sump Engine a Close-Ratio Transmission with Short Throw shifter?
The shifter in my C6 is better than the shifter in my C5 but (IMO) the GM stuff still lags behind the shifters found in other sports cars. I want that "rifle bolt" feeling that kevinkar described. Precise, accurate - no slop.
The only bad press I've heard was the rubber boot and seal supplied might crack. That could have been due to improper installation (I've seen the installation video).
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You will have no regrets installing the MGW shifter with the lower box. I let a person sit in the car and play the MGW shifter this last Saturday. His response was "WOW, this feels like a racecar shifter".
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Originally Posted by 61X
Not sure about the ratios, but I believe they are all short throw shifters. It's the quality of the shifter that makes a difference.
All manual shift C6 Corvettes have had the same part number for the shifter+box since approx. mid-2008 when GM phased out the original, metal-bushing Z06 shifter box. The base car (2005+) has always had rubber bushings.

So none of them were/are "short throw" shifters since to use that description you would have to be able to say "shorter than XXX." The MGW and others have shorter throws than the stock unit because they change the pivot point of the fulcrum. The lever's "throw" actually is shorter than the throw on the stock shifter.

Note: if you order a replacement what you get is BOTH the shifter and the shifter box bolted together as one unit. Part #25823572.

Here is a pic of my original 2007 Z06 shifter box bushing.


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Originally Posted by needcheese
You will have no regrets installing the MGW shifter with the lower box. I let a person sit in the car and play the MGW shifter this last Saturday. His response was "WOW, this feels like a racecar shifter".
Sounds good. Maybe that will be the next project after I do up the engine bay. Thanks for the input. Wish there were some real world comparos between the MGW, Hurst, B&M, etc.
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I also have the MGW shifter and the lower box. I love it. Shifts are smooth and precise.

The OEM shifter was 'OK' but did feel a little 'sloppy/mushy' compared to the MGW.
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Originally Posted by ncvette_1FUNRIDE
I also have the MGW shifter and the lower box. I love it. Shifts are smooth and precise.

The OEM shifter was 'OK' but did feel a little 'sloppy/mushy' compared to the MGW.
Thanks - this is good feedback. Were you able to compare the MGW to other aftermarket shifters before you bought?
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Originally Posted by apredvette
Thanks - this is good feedback. Were you able to compare the MGW to other aftermarket shifters before you bought?
Sorry, I didn't even consider any other shifters. I had heard so much positive feedback on this forum about the quality of the MGW shifter that I bought one shortly after I bought my 2010 coupe.

Originally (in 2010) I had the older version that did not have a lower box. It was a improvement over the OEM shifter for sure, but when a newer improved version came out which also had a lower box, I bought that one.

It is even better than the first one that I had. I can't imagine a shifter could be much better than this newest MGW.
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I installed the MGW Shifter in my 2007 years ago before they sold the lower box. It's been fantastic! The tactile feel of every shift is impressive, a huge improvement from stock. My friend who has a stock shifter on his 2008 vette drove mine and said, "wow, what a difference!"

Just stepped up to a ZR1 and ordered the MGW shifter with the lower box BEFORE I even took delivery of the car! I will install it next week.


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Only one name you need to know is MGW.
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There is no reason to compare the MGW to any other shifter, it is irrefutably superior. The MGW shifter with lower box is the best option.
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The MGW I installed in my 06 about five years ago is the best mod I ever installed for the money. Don't bother looking at anything else.

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Old 08-01-2014, 06:31 PM
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Where is the best/cheapest place to purchase the MGW ?
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Originally Posted by RedHottG2
Where is the best/cheapest place to purchase the MGW ?
As far as I know the only place to get a new one is from MGW. Not a bad thing, though, as their customer service is second to none.

http://www.mgwltd.com/corvette.shtml

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