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Old 06-28-2013, 02:15 PM
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Default Dealer says my power steering punp is leaking

Dealer 400+ for part and I assume about same for labor

Corvette guy...100 for rebuilt part ac delco, and 375 for labor

Do these seem about right


My next option is add power steering fluid until I sell when C7 arrives



What say you??

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Old 06-29-2013, 03:12 AM
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I'm having a hell of a crapstorm with my power steering in my c6. Power steering stopped working, took it to dealer. Dealer said bad power steering so they replaced it. $1015 for new pump and labor. One week later and steering is getting stiff again but fluids look good.....so.....?????? rack and pinion now? geeeze
Old 06-29-2013, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lottavettes
Dealer 400+ for part and I assume about same for labor

Corvette guy...100 for rebuilt part ac delco, and 375 for labor

Do these seem about right


My next option is add power steering fluid until I sell when C7 arrives



What say you??
Hard to say. If the leak is just some seepage then you might get away with it. However, if it is more than seepage the seal has been known to fail completely and you get power steering fluid thrown into the left front wheel well all down the underside of the car, on the rear bumper fascia, and to top it off the serpentine belt then throws a nice thick line of it all over the hood liner. Due to my track activities I have gone through a lot of power steering pumps and racks over the last 16 years and I have lived the above scenario on my 97, 03 and 08.


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I'm having a hell of a crapstorm with my power steering in my c6. Power steering stopped working, took it to dealer. Dealer said bad power steering so they replaced it. $1015 for new pump and labor. One week later and steering is getting stiff again but fluids look good.....so.....?????? rack and pinion now? geeeze
The usual sequence is if one goes the other tends to follow soon after. As I mentioned above I have been through the scenario several times and about half the time if one of them failed I had to replace the other within a short time period.

The cost of repair makes a GMPP plan worth having.

Bill
Old 07-27-2014, 08:18 AM
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The power steeering pump can be DIY! I just did mine with basc tools for $90 (Cordone parts - 30 core) = 65 with tax.


Ofcourse it took me 4 hours. But who cares. And I am NO Mechanic.

BTW did they replace your high pressure Hose? (that part alone was $80 for me on amazon.)
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Originally Posted by Ahmer
The power steeering pump can be DIY! I just did mine with basc tools for $90 (Cordone parts - 30 core) = 65 with tax.


Ofcourse it took me 4 hours. But who cares. And I am NO Mechanic.

BTW did they replace your high pressure Hose? (that part alone was $80 for me on amazon.)
old thread. however...thanks for sharing. now where's the how to?
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Steps: (Obtain a Pulley removal tool from your fav auto parts store, Autozone rents for free)
(First DRAIN ALL PS FLUID FROM THE RESERVOIR!)

1. Remove the Air Dam / Filters up to throttle body
2. Remove alternator (held on by 2 15 mm bolts) and the 1 wire cionnection + 13 mm nut holding the ground in place
3. Loosen the PS reservoir held on by 2 15 mm bolts.
4. There are 2 clamp hoses holding the PS Reservoir to the pump assembly. Remove if you can, if not wait until everything is loosened and try again)
5. There are 2 15 mm bolts (1 is behind the pulley wheel itself on the PS pump) and one is further down in between the throttle body and the pulley (hard to reach on my '05, I prayed the whole time I don't strip it, but it came off eventually)
6. Once all bolts loosened, pull the pulley out towards yourself and away from ABS unit.
Attach pulley removal tool here to remove the pulley, I hung the pump tself with telephone cord high and dry over the throttle body by rigging my own pulley system so I could take the pulley off.)
7. Once pulley removed, it is easy to remove the 16 mm. holding the High pressure hose to the pump itself.
8. There are about 4-5 bolts holding the pump to the aluminum bracket.
9. Replace the new pump, apply new pulley, BUT be sure you put your 16 mm high pressure hose nut on with a NEW O-RING prior to the placement of the pulley AND MAKE SURE TO SLIDE THE 2 BOLTS that are NOT Going to slide in if the pulley is on first.
10. At this point, you should have your 16 mm bolt (from high pressure hose) and 2 15 mm bolts in place.
11. Slide the Power steering pump back into place making sure the High pressure hose clears the belt train and the crankshaft pulley
12. Reverse the rest. EASY.

IF YOU HAVE TO REPLACE YOUR HOSE:

BTW I had to replace my high pressure hose as my 05 had the SHORT one, so I bought a new one (much longer hose) from Rockauto (80 shipped), re-routing over the front cross member was required, but the only difference is when everything is off, there is an 18 mm. bolt holding onto the PS assembly itself (Use a flare wrench to avoid stripping) that must come off. Remove that as well. I held the hose on by aluminum zip ties.

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Old 07-27-2014, 01:54 PM
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Cordone will fail! My Saturn, with Cordone's life time warranty, on its third life cycle.

TurnOne or OEM along with brand new OEM hoses if you want system to last.

But the bright side is that: you will be better at change out next time.

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Originally Posted by victorf
Cordone will fail! My Saturn, with Cordone's life time warranty, on its third life cycle.

TurnOne or OEM along with brand new OEM hoses if you want system to last.

But the bright side is that: you will be better at change out next time.

The AC Delco is a cardone part
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I just bought a Turn One pump in anticipation. Check it out, you may want it instead.
Old 07-28-2014, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by glenB
The AC Delco is a cardone part
Supplier/manufacturer for generic verse OEM have distinct longevity differences - agreed??

Or....do you believe they are one of the same??

Sorry for the Hijack...op!

Old 07-28-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by victorf
Supplier/manufacturer for generic verse OEM have distinct longevity differences - agreed??

Or....do you believe they are one of the same??

Sorry for the Hijack...op!

If it comes from the same place, I'd put my money on "its the same" just like everything else. They may claim different quality control or materials or something. I wouldn't readily believe it unless i could see it.
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Originally Posted by victorf
Supplier/manufacturer for generic verse OEM have distinct longevity differences - agreed??

Or....do you believe they are one of the same??

Sorry for the Hijack...op!

Supplier says its the same part.

AC Delco does sell an OEM part as well, but marketed as AC Delco. You can generally tell which is which by the price but most catalogs will say AC Delco Vs AC Delco OEM
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Nice. Well I know how to change it. No biggie. BUT, my car continues to have a slight pesky leak on the front driver's side cross member. I can't figure out where its coming from. Looks clear like power steering fluid but my rack seems to be doing ok. Do the side inlet hoses on the Shaft coming down on the rack itself have a tendency to leak?
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Originally Posted by glenB
Supplier says its the same part.

AC Delco does sell an OEM part as well, but marketed as AC Delco. You can generally tell which is which by the price but most catalogs will say AC Delco Vs AC Delco OEM
AC Delco makes nothing. It is a marketing brand. The OE part may come from "X" and the Delco part may come from"Y".
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Originally Posted by timd38
AC Delco makes nothing. It is a marketing brand. The OE part may come from "X" and the Delco part may come from"Y".
There you go!

I have changed out OEM with Cardones Life Time Warranty power steering pump three times after the OEM bite the dust at 130K miles. OEM pump is obsolete, no choice except Cardone replacement. Each Cardone replacement had a different appearance, with the last one painted completely black - including the reservoir. Each change, included new hoses, the first two sets were generic and both suffered pinhole/crimp leaks in short order. The last set was OEM, 30K miles and counting.

As for myself, price has never been an objection, OEM or known name brand, since I want components to last. However, faced with no alternatives - Cardone falls under generic in my book - and it has the same iffy longevity as other generic, such as alternator, starter and radiator............ I had experienced!

Just saying!

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My TurnOne pump showed up today. This thread cost me money
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That is also my choice when the time comes. Good time to swap with ARP 12 points - more monies!

Did you order their pulley as well?

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Originally Posted by victorf
That is also my choice when the time comes. Good time to swap with ARP 12 points - more monies!

Did you order their pulley as well?

What fun would it be of I didn't get the pulley. I am going to try a n make the pressure out of -6 hose and fittings.

Maybe a week or two before I get to it.
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My '08 with 18000 mi on it had a power steering leak took to dealer and spoke to service manager, he was able to talk to factory and agreed to replace pump under warranty and also picked up part of labor.

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