My corvette shop, Robbed me...
#41
Le Mans Master
I'd say $700 for that much labor is not bad but I generally DIY so I'm a bit out of touch when it comes to shop prices. Given the amount of overhead an independent shop would have, $80-100/hr wouldn't be unreasonable in most locations.
#43
Burning Brakes
It's also normal for shops to charge a little more one way or another when you bring in your own parts too. Usually they make a decent % on marking up parts. This applies more with general shops than performance shops I'm sure, but it still can apply.
That being said I might have been a little unhappy about getting the car back with an ABS light on it didn't go in with, and if *my* guy didn't trust me enough to pay him. I wouldn't really hold it against this guy though since you've only worked with him twice.
Wouldn't say you got robbed though....
That being said I might have been a little unhappy about getting the car back with an ABS light on it didn't go in with, and if *my* guy didn't trust me enough to pay him. I wouldn't really hold it against this guy though since you've only worked with him twice.
Wouldn't say you got robbed though....
Last edited by jdhommert; 02-16-2013 at 11:25 PM.
#46
Pro
Thread Starter
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: From: Brooklyn Kiddo, Live in Wantagh, Long Island NY....... New York
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
It's also normal for shops to charge a little more one way or another when you bring in your own parts too. Usually they make a decent % on marking up parts. This applies more with general shops than performance shops I'm sure, but it still can apply.
That being said I might have been a little unhappy about getting the car back with an ABS light on it didn't go in with, and if *my* guy didn't trust me enough to pay him. I wouldn't really hold it against this guy though since you've only worked with him twice.
Wouldn't say you got robbed though....
That being said I might have been a little unhappy about getting the car back with an ABS light on it didn't go in with, and if *my* guy didn't trust me enough to pay him. I wouldn't really hold it against this guy though since you've only worked with him twice.
Wouldn't say you got robbed though....
#47
I have had great success with three independent shops. One BMW only, one Euro only, and one Vette only. I never ask the cost, I always estimate, and always take 2X my estimate in CASH. When it comes time to pay the bill, I pull out 1/2 my cash and ask, "what is the cash price, I don't need a receipt?" I never have to go to the bank, atm, piggy bank, or dig a tin can out of the back yard, I am ready. I have never been screwed, have sometimes been shocked at what a great deal I get, and always have received some printed list of what's been done for my records. I have rarely paid more than 50% of what some dealer would charge, and usually a lot less. Sometime the parts could only be obtained from a dealer, so you can get pounded a little there.
I remember the guys at Christmas, and when I ever refer a customer to the shops, I personally take them to meet the guys.
I write dynamite reviews of the shops on local city forums. I try and make myself a popular guy at the shops. A box of coffee and donuts can go a long way.
Remember the Boy Scout Moto; BE PREPARED! Oops, I have to go to the bank, doesn't cut it.
I remember the guys at Christmas, and when I ever refer a customer to the shops, I personally take them to meet the guys.
I write dynamite reviews of the shops on local city forums. I try and make myself a popular guy at the shops. A box of coffee and donuts can go a long way.
Remember the Boy Scout Moto; BE PREPARED! Oops, I have to go to the bank, doesn't cut it.
#49
Team Owner
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: S/W ,Fla-Ohio State Football isn't a matter of life or death,Its Much More serious than that
Posts: 51,040
Received 1,142 Likes
on
592 Posts
$700 doesn't seem too bad I suppose for doing the brakes, painting the calibers, installing the center console, etc. Thanks about 5-6 hours worth of work and shakes out to about $100 or a little more per hour. Sounds like you guys need to have a more clear understanding next time. I don't get the impression he tried to get one over on you.
#50
Melting Slicks
700.00 seems fair.
Have any of you looked at the color of your DOT3 in the Res.?
Mine was a sludgey, chunky dark brown. It took two quarts of fluid to flush out the system.
Not to mention the time.
I would have pay 200.00 just to get my brakes flushed.
When I painted my calipers, I removed them and bead cleaned them.
That would have easily been another 300.00.
An hour labor to install the rotors and an hour for the CF bezel...
700.00 would do it.
Part of the reason I do most of my own work, combined with no one I trust.
Have any of you looked at the color of your DOT3 in the Res.?
Mine was a sludgey, chunky dark brown. It took two quarts of fluid to flush out the system.
Not to mention the time.
I would have pay 200.00 just to get my brakes flushed.
When I painted my calipers, I removed them and bead cleaned them.
That would have easily been another 300.00.
An hour labor to install the rotors and an hour for the CF bezel...
700.00 would do it.
Part of the reason I do most of my own work, combined with no one I trust.
#51
Team Owner
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: Anger Island
Posts: 45,945
Received 3,289 Likes
on
1,399 Posts
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Based on what?
Shops charge $100/hr here give or take a little. That means you think it should have taken 5 hours or less for all the work he did. If it was that simple and quick perhaps you should/could have done it yourself. As others have said, I think $700 is pretty fair for what he did since that's probably less than 7 hours of work.
For the guys saying that's too much and $100/hr is way too high, you've obviously never run a shop as you have no clue what it costs.
Shops charge $100/hr here give or take a little. That means you think it should have taken 5 hours or less for all the work he did. If it was that simple and quick perhaps you should/could have done it yourself. As others have said, I think $700 is pretty fair for what he did since that's probably less than 7 hours of work.
For the guys saying that's too much and $100/hr is way too high, you've obviously never run a shop as you have no clue what it costs.
#52
Burning Brakes
Member Since: Mar 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
7 Posts
I got my calipers powder coated by a reputable vendor on here for $375 for all four. I installed them myself so not sure about what labor would be. This is the main reason I do my own maintenance to avoid issues like this unless it's under warranty. If you have to ask this question, then you probably over paid.
#53
Le Mans Master
Sounds reasonable price for the work done ( bear in mind there are quite a few super thrifty types on here who always want something for nothing. You might want to disregard their ideas).
#54
I still think the OP should have done it himself...after buying the proper tools and equipment and spending the time doing the job, I would be willing to bet the post would have been far different.
I once did an engine swap for a neighbor who was too cheap to pay the shop the 2k they wanted and then complained when I charged him $700 for the job...which started as a straight in and out swap and evolved into changing the intake and doing the brakes (both master and slave to include the proportioning valve, calipers, and wheel cylinders) because "his recollection" of the original reason why the original engine blew up didn't include the fact his brakes were locked up and he drove it home that way from work.
If you learn how to do it yourself you may never do it again, but you will have an appreciation for what the mechanic does for you. Tools ain't cheap, but for a mechanic they are a sunk cost and have a replacement cycle that also has to be factored in to any job...the DIY guy will likely never wear out a good set of tools.
I once did an engine swap for a neighbor who was too cheap to pay the shop the 2k they wanted and then complained when I charged him $700 for the job...which started as a straight in and out swap and evolved into changing the intake and doing the brakes (both master and slave to include the proportioning valve, calipers, and wheel cylinders) because "his recollection" of the original reason why the original engine blew up didn't include the fact his brakes were locked up and he drove it home that way from work.
If you learn how to do it yourself you may never do it again, but you will have an appreciation for what the mechanic does for you. Tools ain't cheap, but for a mechanic they are a sunk cost and have a replacement cycle that also has to be factored in to any job...the DIY guy will likely never wear out a good set of tools.
Last edited by MLCRookie; 02-17-2013 at 05:03 PM.
#55
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Farmington CT
Posts: 6,125
Received 160 Likes
on
125 Posts
Cruise-In VII Veteran
to be objective on any rates, you'd need the process.......
1. powder coated
2. rattle canned(without removal)
3. brush on(without removal)
either way, the car is now for sale by the OP'er
I have no involvement with the car/owner/work performed.
No opinion.
1. powder coated
2. rattle canned(without removal)
3. brush on(without removal)
either way, the car is now for sale by the OP'er
I have no involvement with the car/owner/work performed.
No opinion.
#56
Pro
Thread Starter
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: From: Brooklyn Kiddo, Live in Wantagh, Long Island NY....... New York
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
my own brake job. When I removed the caliper the piston came out and started flushing out brake fluid. I tried to put the piston back in but it would not go. Thats y I had the car towed....
Last edited by PRicanC6Xpress; 02-17-2013 at 07:18 PM.
#57
Melting Slicks
If it happened now days, I would just go get a rebuilt caliper and give them the busted one as the core.
So much easier to buy a rebuilt caliper than rebuild/fix it yourself.
#58
Pro
Thread Starter
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: From: Brooklyn Kiddo, Live in Wantagh, Long Island NY....... New York
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
I have had great success with three independent shops. One BMW only, one Euro only, and one Vette only. I never ask the cost, I always estimate, and always take 2X my estimate in CASH. When it comes time to pay the bill, I pull out 1/2 my cash and ask, "what is the cash price, I don't need a receipt?" I never have to go to the bank, atm, piggy bank, or dig a tin can out of the back yard, I am ready. I have never been screwed, have sometimes been shocked at what a great deal I get, and always have received some printed list of what's been done for my records. I have rarely paid more than 50% of what some dealer would charge, and usually a lot less. Sometime the parts could only be obtained from a dealer, so you can get pounded a little there.
I remember the guys at Christmas, and when I ever refer a customer to the shops, I personally take them to meet the guys.
I write dynamite reviews of the shops on local city forums. I try and make myself a popular guy at the shops. A box of coffee and donuts can go a long way.
Remember the Boy Scout Moto; BE PREPARED! Oops, I have to go to the bank, doesn't cut it.
I remember the guys at Christmas, and when I ever refer a customer to the shops, I personally take them to meet the guys.
I write dynamite reviews of the shops on local city forums. I try and make myself a popular guy at the shops. A box of coffee and donuts can go a long way.
Remember the Boy Scout Moto; BE PREPARED! Oops, I have to go to the bank, doesn't cut it.
#59
For that statement right there I wish you lived closer, I and a few friends would be willing to help simply because you want to learn. This is my first Vette, but I have been wrenching on my own stuff my whole life...from motorcycles to cars and trucks to race cars...once you learn the basics, you will understand a lot more. One piece of advice, when you buy tools, don't be cheap...buy quality and keep them organized and they will last you a lifetime!
Also, with any brake job or brake fluid related stuff, PROTECT YOUR PAINT!!!
#60
Pro
Thread Starter
Member Since: Sep 2011
Location: From: Brooklyn Kiddo, Live in Wantagh, Long Island NY....... New York
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Holy christ
For that statement right there I wish you lived closer, I and a few friends would be willing to help simply because you want to learn. This is my first Vette, but I have been wrenching on my own stuff my whole life...from motorcycles to cars and trucks to race cars...once you learn the basics, you will understand a lot more. One piece of advice, when you buy tools, don't be cheap...buy quality and keep them organized and they will last you a lifetime!
Also, with any brake job or brake fluid related stuff, PROTECT YOUR PAINT!!!