dennis50nj

Frank maybe the LS3 cars you raced couldn't drive also most bolt/on cars change gears lighter brake rotors, wheels, smaller batteries, swaybar removal, and other things, now the weight is lower on the c6 and the rotating weight is lower, and the Z06 gets beat, even with a 293 lb driver

FrankTank

We could say the same about the Z06 drivers that he beat The guys I raced drive with about the same ability as I do.

I agree 100% also, if you start to swap out even more parts to make the car lighter, it can have a bigger impact.. and I am not trying to infer a modded LS3 can't take down an otherwise stock Z06 or even lightly modded one...I am just saying it's not quite as simple always (at least from what I've experienced) slapping on a CAI, and tune, headers that's all.

dennis50nj

it takes all the bolt/ons. the Z06 is a mighty beast and pulls very hard

SpinMonster

Pay ranger to drive your car.

mowe

With out me my corvette 1 lt weighs 3208...what does a Z06 weigh...also a 1-2-3lz would weigh a little more..also I have heard that the later years weighed a few more lbs then the earlier versions....

I wouldnt say I was an amazing driver...In its current state the car ran 12.2 at 122mph....thats with the factory tire/rims....that is also only 2 runs....not much seat time.

I believe that with an aggressive cam I can hit 500whp....I am sure I will find a z or two w/headers / exh/ tune that will stay with it..but the majority I believe would be a little behind....but then again you never know until u run it...

FrankTank

That would be quite a large cam to hit 500whp I am sure it would be close, or its possible the LS3 with that size cam might overtake a Z with just tune and CAI... like you mentioned just have to wait and see what it runs

S'vette

Its too bad you didnt weigh them when they were both off the car. Id be curious about the difference. What OEMs do you have? Can you still weigh those and let us know the lbs?

dennis50nj

mine is an LS2 cam is a cartek cam dont no the specs, very streetable
and passed n.j. inspection, hit 10.59 @ 130 mph in the 1/4 and 103 mph in the 1/8 cam only in warm weather 800+ da with an automatic and a 3800 converter with bad traction, that should beat a Z06 start to finish

FrankTank

good numbers and looks like a really good pass given the conditions etc..

Vade46

My LS2 with minor bolt-ons making just under 400whp ran a best of 11.6 @ 119 w/1.58 60ft on DR's. My buddies bone stock Z06 on the same day ran 11.3 @125 w/1.8 60ft on DR's. It was his first time racing the car so he needs to work on getting a better 60ft and shifting but I would need a lot more work to even touch him. His 11.3 is already better than the best time for a bolt-on manual tranny LS2 so I know I can't touch a Z.

C U IN REARVEIW

Wouldn't need a huge cam to get to 500whp in a LS3

ATC399

stomp and go....

dennis50nj

i believe you can do it. it just takes good driving and dedication, most aren't dedicated to doing it bolt/on only, at a certain point most just throw more parts and move to forced induction, h&c. you can be the one to take the top spot

Vade46

That is definitely what I plan on doing this year. I will at least take the top spot by beating the 11.34. I saw you guys had a thread a while back about whether or not a bolt on manual LS2 could reach 10's. I will do all I can to get as close as possible but I do want to go heads/cam at some point, so it just depends on how long I can hold out.

dennis50nj

if i can be of any help dont hesitate to ask.

Fly'n Family

The one time I've run my 08' LS3 in a head to head was from 40-120, and it walked a fellow club members stock 11' Z06 pretty handily. Got a tank of gas out of it, and a much quieter club member, which was better than the gas. Lots of stuff done to mine.....531/486 NA rwp

LFZ

Interesting...I have walked 530+rwhp C6s all day long in my (stock LS7) Z....

From a roll race, the Z06 is pretty tough to beat, because 2nd gear in the Z is deadly....but the problem is keeping traction. You can't just stomp and go...you have to know how to squeeze it. I have rolled race with several fast cars out there, and have not had one that could keep up. A 700hp STi and a built M5 were the closest at a fender length...but like I said...it takes some a steady, gentle, yet abrupt foot to get it going.

ny32182

530hp is damn near ZR1 level is it not? How is a stock Z06 going to compete with that?

C U IN REARVEIW

Not sure of the zr1 rwhp but....they make around 638 at the crank,give or take

FrankTank

I guess that depends on what you define as huge cam A cam that is going to help an LS3 pick up about 110-120 RWHP is pretty healthy JMO.. granted the supporting mods help too.. if that cam has worked heads also, headers etc..than yea you would not need a monster cam to get there.