Using a fork to seperate the spindle from LCA is NOT the way to do it.........
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Using a fork to seperate the spindle from LCA is NOT the way to do it.........
This has been posted dozens of times, there is no reason to use a fork to seperate the ball joint
WHY? you will tear the grease boot for the ball joint, leading to increased wear attracting dirt/water
Use the Kent Moore tool or hit the spindle with a hammer
I'd put the fork suggestion up there with using a jack to loosen the brake caliper bracket bolts...............not smart.
WHY? you will tear the grease boot for the ball joint, leading to increased wear attracting dirt/water
Use the Kent Moore tool or hit the spindle with a hammer
I'd put the fork suggestion up there with using a jack to loosen the brake caliper bracket bolts...............not smart.
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This has been posted dozens of times, there is no reason to use a fork to seperate the ball joint
WHY? you will tear the grease boot for the ball joint, leading to increased wear attracting dirt/water
Use the Kent Moore tool or hit the spindle with a hammer
I'd put the fork suggestion up there with using a jack to loosen the brake caliper bracket bolts...............not smart.
WHY? you will tear the grease boot for the ball joint, leading to increased wear attracting dirt/water
Use the Kent Moore tool or hit the spindle with a hammer
I'd put the fork suggestion up there with using a jack to loosen the brake caliper bracket bolts...............not smart.
And that brake caliper bracket as you call it, is called an ABUTMENT
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Exactly, I have never used a fork on a C5/6; changed a wheel bearing for a local Z06 owner on Saturday, 45 minutes car was back on the ground...........we had discussed the 'fork' comments posted here on the forum
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I got the KM tools, its a cake walk to separate the joints using this tool. Using a BFH to get the joints to separate is a big NO NO in my books, not only does it look like some amateur was in the beating the crap out of it but it isn't good for the part as well.
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Its all good, we just leave them alone!
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This permits the energy from the blow to travel through the part and transfer to the other hammer, thereby preventing the part from being bent by the hit. It distorts the part to allow the ball joint to pop out but does not damage the part.
I cringe every time I see someone whacking away with just one hammer. It certaainly will not happen on my cars.
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Another confirmation on "What is a Hammer Mechanic". Entertaining to see they always come up with creditentials - like that would make it true!
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Lets look at the physical attributes how the those parts are put together:
1. Precisely machined male taper & female mating taper for proper fit.
2. Castle draw nut on male taper threaded portion for maintaining torqued tension.
3. Cotter pin for captivation.
4. Rubber boot to contain grease for lubrication.
When the four components are assembled, it is in an inline tension. To break that tension properly without distortion, it is best to apply force in line. Tool design engineer designed tool for specific application and toolmaker makes them! When softer metal is being striked with harden hammer directly from the side, whether it is one, two or.....the softer metal distort to yield and that distortion is permanent - it is measurable - but most people don't bother, all they care is A-arm/tie rod is free!!
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Most mechanic lacks indepth metal working knowledge and under pressure to satisfied speedy turn around with R&R, he/she resorts to the quickest means. Does it make it gospel?
That is where knowledge comes in, which enables finesse in work practices and not following blindly!
Sorry about hurting your feelings!
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Lets look at the physical attributes how the those parts are put together:
1. Precisely machined male taper & female mating taper for proper fit.
2. Castle draw nut on male taper threaded portion for maintaining torqued tension.
3. Cotter pin for captivation.
4. Rubber boot to contain grease for lubrication.
When the four components are assembled, it is in an inline tension. To break that tension properly without distortion, it is best to apply force in line. Tool design engineer designed tool for specific application and toolmaker makes them! When softer metal is being striked with harden hammer directly from the side, whether it is one, two or.....the softer metal distort to yield and that distortion is permanent - it is measurable - but most people don't bother, all they care is A-arm/tie rod is free!!
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Most mechanic lacks indepth metal working knowledge and under pressure to satisfied speedy turn around with R&R, he/she resorts to the quickest means. Does it make it gospel?
That is where knowledge comes in, which enables finesse in work practices and not following blindly!
Sorry about hurting your feelings!
Last edited by victorf; 05-17-2012 at 03:06 PM.
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I just tried buying one off of Ebay and it closed at $300 plus shipping. I can almost buy two whole new control arms for that.
I used the fork and ripped my boot, but bought C4 urethane boots and the knuckle smashes it on their pretty good. It may not be the perfect seal that the stock boot is, but I bet it lasts for years.
It seems like there should be a cheaper version of the KM tool that should work. I can't justify $300 for a tool I am only going to use a couple times.
Actually last time I needed to work on my diff, I just took both control arms off as one big piece. I have a firestone lifetime alignment so it didn't cost me anything to get it realigned other than my time.
I just tried buying one off of Ebay and it closed at $300 plus shipping. I can almost buy two whole new control arms for that.
I used the fork and ripped my boot, but bought C4 urethane boots and the knuckle smashes it on their pretty good. It may not be the perfect seal that the stock boot is, but I bet it lasts for years.
It seems like there should be a cheaper version of the KM tool that should work. I can't justify $300 for a tool I am only going to use a couple times.
Actually last time I needed to work on my diff, I just took both control arms off as one big piece. I have a firestone lifetime alignment so it didn't cost me anything to get it realigned other than my time.