Fast and 102mm TB gains...
#1
Fast and 102mm TB gains...
Is it worth the $1450 + tune $ (so around $2k) for me to go to a fast 102, and NW 102mm TB?
Currently I have..untuned...LS2
-kooks 1 3/4" long tubes with cats
-ghl race exhaust
-haltech intake (v2 I believe?)
-ati harmonic balancer
I can fab up my own 102mm MAF housing...
So is it worth the $2k for the possible 25 horsepower I will gain? After that I most likely wouldn't Touch anything until I either fab up a twin turbo setup or stick with a cam and maybe heads and keep it simple...
I most likely won't race the car, I just have a terrible modding addiction and my last car was a 500whp pump has S2000...
Currently I have..untuned...LS2
-kooks 1 3/4" long tubes with cats
-ghl race exhaust
-haltech intake (v2 I believe?)
-ati harmonic balancer
I can fab up my own 102mm MAF housing...
So is it worth the $2k for the possible 25 horsepower I will gain? After that I most likely wouldn't Touch anything until I either fab up a twin turbo setup or stick with a cam and maybe heads and keep it simple...
I most likely won't race the car, I just have a terrible modding addiction and my last car was a 500whp pump has S2000...
#2
I was going to put a novi 1500 on the car that I had, but I sold it Amd paid off the car instead. And I'm currently saving for a house sooo budget is tight, hence me being cheap and not springing for an all out NA build.
#3
FAST 102 is worth it in my opinion. 102 TB not so much....with that being said I own a 102mm TB. I am like you in the fact I know I can't stop modding and so I just bought one when I did have the extra money cause I knew I eventually would anyway or I'd wish I had.
#4
Le Mans Master
Is it worth the $1450 + tune $ (so around $2k) for me to go to a fast 102, and NW 102mm TB?
Currently I have..untuned...LS2
-kooks 1 3/4" long tubes with cats
-ghl race exhaust
-haltech intake (v2 I believe?)
-ati harmonic balancer
I can fab up my own 102mm MAF housing...
So is it worth the $2k for the possible 25 horsepower I will gain? After that I most likely wouldn't Touch anything until I either fab up a twin turbo setup or stick with a cam and maybe heads and keep it simple...
I most likely won't race the car, I just have a terrible modding addiction and my last car was a 500whp pump has S2000...
Currently I have..untuned...LS2
-kooks 1 3/4" long tubes with cats
-ghl race exhaust
-haltech intake (v2 I believe?)
-ati harmonic balancer
I can fab up my own 102mm MAF housing...
So is it worth the $2k for the possible 25 horsepower I will gain? After that I most likely wouldn't Touch anything until I either fab up a twin turbo setup or stick with a cam and maybe heads and keep it simple...
I most likely won't race the car, I just have a terrible modding addiction and my last car was a 500whp pump has S2000...
#5
I'm not Finding anything by searching...price? Link?
I just thought the NW was the only DBW option for 102mm TB's...but I haven't searched very hard.
Or would there be more HP per $ gain with a small cam swap, a mild cam that doesn't require heads or new valve train at the time.
And labor wise doesn't matter for me, I'd be doing all the work so it would just be more time, no extra $ for install on a cam vs. intake/TB...
I just thought the NW was the only DBW option for 102mm TB's...but I haven't searched very hard.
Or would there be more HP per $ gain with a small cam swap, a mild cam that doesn't require heads or new valve train at the time.
And labor wise doesn't matter for me, I'd be doing all the work so it would just be more time, no extra $ for install on a cam vs. intake/TB...
#8
Le Mans Master
I'm not Finding anything by searching...price? Link?
I just thought the NW was the only DBW option for 102mm TB's...but I haven't searched very hard.
Or would there be more HP per $ gain with a small cam swap, a mild cam that doesn't require heads or new valve train at the time.
And labor wise doesn't matter for me, I'd be doing all the work so it would just be more time, no extra $ for install on a cam vs. intake/TB...
I just thought the NW was the only DBW option for 102mm TB's...but I haven't searched very hard.
Or would there be more HP per $ gain with a small cam swap, a mild cam that doesn't require heads or new valve train at the time.
And labor wise doesn't matter for me, I'd be doing all the work so it would just be more time, no extra $ for install on a cam vs. intake/TB...
Just google "v-max motorsports" and call the number. The owner Pete Incaudo will answer. He is a cam/heads Master (does the testing for vette magazine and racers around the country). He did both of my stroker motors. The guy is a wealth of knowledge.
#9
Hmm...I know both the cam and fast and TB would be ideal, as that's getting the most out of a cam only package, and from an old post I saw could yield almost 500whp...but that's with an aggressive cam and $4k or so all said and done. Then I go back to wanting the blower cuz I can fab up all my own piping, TIG weld a custom intercooler etc for less than that and it would make 550whp with ease.
Ahhh decisions!
Ahhh decisions!
#10
Le Mans Master
Hmm...I know both the cam and fast and TB would be ideal, as that's getting the most out of a cam only package, and from an old post I saw could yield almost 500whp...but that's with an aggressive cam and $4k or so all said and done. Then I go back to wanting the blower cuz I can fab up all my own piping, TIG weld a custom intercooler etc for less than that and it would make 550whp with ease.
Ahhh decisions!
Ahhh decisions!
I am not up on the current price for Pete's TB's but they were a hair over $400 when I bought mine about 3 years ago. Last I heard, a guy I know paid about $600+ for the NW. They may be cheaper if you shop, but I can tell you Pete's are A-1.
I will try a search for the thread for you.
#13
Le Mans Master
#17
Burning Brakes
Why do you say this, the FAST 90 did wonders for the LS2, are you saying a FAST 102 doesn't produce similar gains on an LS3? I was/am not aware of this. I've hear the CAI (so to speak) on stock LS3 doesn't give up much to aftermakets CAIs as well. Any truth here?
#18
No the LS3 intake / intake manifold from the factory is pretty darn good. If I had an LS3 I would just be doing a cam.
The LS2 intake / intake manifold suck from the factory and limit power gains.
The LS2 intake / intake manifold suck from the factory and limit power gains.