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08-17-2011, 10:12 PM
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Burning Brakes
While I have never done business with Chuck... I do know he is highly regarded on this forum and seriously doubt he would risk his reputation on Snake Oil, JMHO.
I'm looking forward to more info.
I'm looking forward to more info.
08-17-2011, 10:26 PM
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Chuck it's Mark hold that COW Booster for me I want that for my Vette, just tell me when to go to the shop, $99.00 I'm in ! Thank's see you soon Sic C6
08-17-2011, 10:26 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
As I said earlier......
As I said before.....
All I'm willing to say on the subject is that CoW BOOSTER WORKS and
YOUR tables DO NOT WORK. I won't get into "WHY", just know that your
tables, while you CAN modify them, WON'T do what CoW BOOSTER can do.
I didn't take me 7 years to perfect 2005-2011 Corvette, CAMARO, TRUCKS,
G8-GT CADDY, and all of the other late CAN-BUS CONTROLLED ETC VEHICLES
when I could have just used my HPT cable 2 years ago when the tables first
appeared in a BETA release.... They DO NOT WORK.
By the way, YES I'm asking you if you have personally and successfully
manipulated the throttle to the level that I have with all of the function
and safety that's built into CoW BOOSTER.
Meaningless link and does not apply.
2 popular LSx tuning suites now offer similar control for LS1/LS6
controllers. One had it since the beginning of time while the other
added it relatively recently.
Many people that enjoy my posts report that they have trouble reading
the computer monitor so I try to add spaces between rows and make use
of a larger font so they don't strain their eyes....
I'll say it again. YOU CAN NOT INSTALL THE CoW BOOSTER product
or modify the the tables posted herein with commercially available tuning
software.
Special hardware is required and ALL CoW BOOSTER installations
MUST be performed by ME, in person.
Fellas. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND. This is an ADVERTISEMENT for
a new product by CORVETTES OF WESTCHESTER. I will gladly
answer any appropriate questions posted in this thread about this
product, HOWEVER I will NOT be challenged in this thread with respect
to the validity, function, or exclusiveness of this product.
This is an ADVERTISEMENT and we welcome all questions from interested
members....Please do not let it be any more than that.
If you think for one second that your TUNING SOFTWARE can do what I've
done, then you should hurry up and sign up as a vendor cause...
CoW BOOSTER has got my phone ringing OFF THE HOOK ALL DAY LONG!
My question still stands,
how is it different from using that table?
It sounds like you're saying it isn't different,
and you're asking me if I've personally used the table and
did it work
how is it different from using that table?
It sounds like you're saying it isn't different,
and you're asking me if I've personally used the table and
did it work
YOUR tables DO NOT WORK. I won't get into "WHY", just know that your
tables, while you CAN modify them, WON'T do what CoW BOOSTER can do.
I didn't take me 7 years to perfect 2005-2011 Corvette, CAMARO, TRUCKS,
G8-GT CADDY, and all of the other late CAN-BUS CONTROLLED ETC VEHICLES
when I could have just used my HPT cable 2 years ago when the tables first
appeared in a BETA release.... They DO NOT WORK.
By the way, YES I'm asking you if you have personally and successfully
manipulated the throttle to the level that I have with all of the function
and safety that's built into CoW BOOSTER.
FWIW the table I'm referring to is included in the LSx Tuning guide:
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/ls1edit/ls1...ing%20info.htm
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/ls1edit/ls1...ing%20info.htm
2 popular LSx tuning suites now offer similar control for LS1/LS6
controllers. One had it since the beginning of time while the other
added it relatively recently.
I'm here to learn but damn do we really need the massive font sizes!
the computer monitor so I try to add spaces between rows and make use
of a larger font so they don't strain their eyes....
Somehow I doubt Chuck has his own proprietary software
considering he's using EFI Live to flash this in. The tables work.
considering he's using EFI Live to flash this in. The tables work.
or modify the the tables posted herein with commercially available tuning
software.
Special hardware is required and ALL CoW BOOSTER installations
MUST be performed by ME, in person.
Fellas. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND. This is an ADVERTISEMENT for
a new product by CORVETTES OF WESTCHESTER. I will gladly
answer any appropriate questions posted in this thread about this
product, HOWEVER I will NOT be challenged in this thread with respect
to the validity, function, or exclusiveness of this product.
This is an ADVERTISEMENT and we welcome all questions from interested
members....Please do not let it be any more than that.
If you think for one second that your TUNING SOFTWARE can do what I've
done, then you should hurry up and sign up as a vendor cause...
CoW BOOSTER has got my phone ringing OFF THE HOOK ALL DAY LONG!
You better not miss out!
Chuck CoW
08-17-2011, 10:44 PM
#26
Safety Car
Not hating, just trying to get to the bottom. You said yourself people can do this with AutoCal. That's EFI Live, aka "tuning software". AutoCal has access to the PCM and TCM, just the same as EFI Live does as well as HP Tuners. There are no other modules that can get flashed with it. I just have one question... Are you, or are you not using proprietary software to edit the PCM calibration given that you're utilizing EFI Live as a medium to load this into vehicles?
I will vouch for what you said about traction control off having even more dampened response. I noticed this when I had a huge cam and would turn TC off. My throttle responds the same in all modes now. I set maps B and C to the same values as A, and all was well.
I will vouch for what you said about traction control off having even more dampened response. I noticed this when I had a huge cam and would turn TC off. My throttle responds the same in all modes now. I set maps B and C to the same values as A, and all was well.
08-17-2011, 11:28 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Not at all.
But, it will be SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED!
When I pull the file from your computer, I save it and back it up.
Next, CoW BOOSTER is installed.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR A TUNE TO USE CoW BOOSTER.
(but it is recommended)
CoW BOOSTER is a completely separate product and operates completely
independent of any other tuners tune you might be currently running with.
CoW BOOSTER WILL make your tuner's tune SHINE! even if it's not soo good.
The MOST PERFORMANCE POSSIBLE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
GUARANTEED!
Chuck CoW
08-17-2011, 11:49 PM
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Le Mans Master
cHUCK IF i OVERNIGHT MY PCM YOU CAN INSTALL THE COW BOOSTER AND TUNE? What about the trans tune? Or do I have to buy the hand held unit? Looking for the quickest wat to get this done. I will call back tomorrow to give your guy my cc number in the morning. We had a few problems here with weather then my pool pump took a crap. Talk to you again tomorrow very ecxited to try this out along with a tune and trans tune. How about a old fart dicscount for all the above?
How about a old fart dicscount for all the above?
08-18-2011, 01:01 AM
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
Somehow I doubt Chuck has his own proprietary software considering he's using EFI Live to flash this in.
The tables work.
The new PCMs aren't like the old ones where they have the transmission control built in and just use a yes/no for transmission equipped, so that's kind of a moot point. They're also set up with legacy code which can be enabled, even if a particular vehicle doesn't use it... example: flex fuel (requires pinning the PCM and a fuel composition sensor).
The tables work.
The new PCMs aren't like the old ones where they have the transmission control built in and just use a yes/no for transmission equipped, so that's kind of a moot point. They're also set up with legacy code which can be enabled, even if a particular vehicle doesn't use it... example: flex fuel (requires pinning the PCM and a fuel composition sensor).
Dave, I would not mess with that table. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the result will be a P0606 fault code "Internal Controller Fault" or reduced engine power. There is a likely hood you will toast the PCM.
That table is more of a display of data rather a functional table. You can reduce the settings but increasing them will cause issues.
If that happens just be aware you might need to replace your E38 and/or your HP Tuners Licence when you can't bring controller back to life.
.
08-18-2011, 01:17 AM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Yes, I can....
It will cost $199 for the install as it's much more than a simple tune....
Spoke to Vararam the other day and we're going to try to put together
a VARARAM tuning trip this year.
Stay Tuned!
Chuck CoW
08-18-2011, 07:06 AM
#33
Drifting
My question still stands,
how is it different from using that table?
It sounds like you're saying it isn't different,
and you're asking me if I've personally used the table and
did it work
No, I personally have not used it
but I did a quick search and Joe_G
references EFI Live and HPTuners both having a similar table
- and he says it is used and does make a difference.
how is it different from using that table?
It sounds like you're saying it isn't different,
and you're asking me if I've personally used the table and
did it work
No, I personally have not used it
but I did a quick search and Joe_G
references EFI Live and HPTuners both having a similar table
- and he says it is used and does make a difference.
His table is different probably because his software was older, that post was made on 2009 and the software was updated after that apparently to include the new features/tables.
FWIW the table I'm referring to is included in the LSx Tuning guide:
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/ls1edit/ls1...ing%20info.htm
Anyone with any experience using that table,
either with no change, worse response or for the better,
is free to chime in.
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/ls1edit/ls1...ing%20info.htm
Anyone with any experience using that table,
either with no change, worse response or for the better,
is free to chime in.
Just go tune your car yourself if you can and save $99 if that is what you are worried about.
Leave this thread to those that are interested and can not do it themselves.
08-18-2011, 07:36 AM
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Safety Car
1) The enhancement works...it's amazing how much more fun and control you can have with a "cable like" throttle again...and you cant do it with HP Tuners or EFI Live...we've all been trying for years with no luck....this is different...this mod will make you fall in love with your car all over again, no matter how much you like it now. I was doubtful it could be done, and if it could, that is would be as drastic a difference as it is; if I didn't feel the before and after differences on my own car, I would have been skeptical as well.
2) Those are not Chuck's arms
Chuck
Craigster
08-18-2011, 07:39 AM
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Safety Car
Dave, I would not mess with that table. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the result will be a P0606 fault code "Internal Controller Fault" or reduced engine power. There is a likely hood you will toast the PCM.
That table is more of a display of data rather a functional table. You can reduce the settings but increasing them will cause issues.
If that happens just be aware you might need to replace your E38 and/or your HP Tuners Licence when you can't bring controller back to life.
.
That table is more of a display of data rather a functional table. You can reduce the settings but increasing them will cause issues.
If that happens just be aware you might need to replace your E38 and/or your HP Tuners Licence when you can't bring controller back to life.
.
Let me make one thing clear. Remapping the throttle correlation is very real and very possible. I don't doubt for one second the ability to remap it.
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08-18-2011, 09:04 AM
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Tech Contributor
I go the other way with this than the previous posters.
Making the car feel "snappy" with the throttle response is a valid reason to mod your car even if you can't "measure" it. Same with muffler mods - our factory mufflers flow quite well (below 500 rwhp), so when we make our cars louder it's a personal preference, not a performance gain.
But with that said I have an actual need for this mod. I have been complaining about my c6 since I bought it (as per my post from the HP Tuners forum linked above), as I like to heel and toe downshift...and the c6 is sluggish - you don't have much time to execute the HnT going into a turn and this car takes way too much pedal movement to blip the revs in my opinion. It hinders my driving style on the track.
The HP Tuners table I referenced in my link above did help matters somewhat, but the car is still sluggish.
I welcome this mod and thank Chuck for his R & D work and bringing the tweak to market. The man deserves to make a living like we all do. If you don't want his product don't buy it, and if you know how to do it for free, then good for you. Doesn't give you an excuse to bash him IMHO. I don't mind paying Chuck a few bucks for his time.
How on his font sizes.....
Making the car feel "snappy" with the throttle response is a valid reason to mod your car even if you can't "measure" it. Same with muffler mods - our factory mufflers flow quite well (below 500 rwhp), so when we make our cars louder it's a personal preference, not a performance gain.
But with that said I have an actual need for this mod. I have been complaining about my c6 since I bought it (as per my post from the HP Tuners forum linked above), as I like to heel and toe downshift...and the c6 is sluggish - you don't have much time to execute the HnT going into a turn and this car takes way too much pedal movement to blip the revs in my opinion. It hinders my driving style on the track.
The HP Tuners table I referenced in my link above did help matters somewhat, but the car is still sluggish.
I welcome this mod and thank Chuck for his R & D work and bringing the tweak to market. The man deserves to make a living like we all do. If you don't want his product don't buy it, and if you know how to do it for free, then good for you. Doesn't give you an excuse to bash him IMHO. I don't mind paying Chuck a few bucks for his time.
How on his font sizes.....
08-18-2011, 09:14 AM
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08-18-2011, 11:30 AM
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NOPE, Not at all. Your tune won't be effected in any way....
But, it will be SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED!
When I pull the file from your computer, I save it and back it up.
Next, CoW BOOSTER is installed.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR A TUNE TO USE CoW BOOSTER.
(but it is recommended)
CoW BOOSTER is a completely separate product and operates completely
independent of any other tuners tune you might be currently running with.
CoW BOOSTER WILL make your tuner's tune SHINE! even if it's not soo good.
The MOST PERFORMANCE POSSIBLE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
GUARANTEED!
Chuck CoW
But, it will be SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED!
When I pull the file from your computer, I save it and back it up.
Next, CoW BOOSTER is installed.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR A TUNE TO USE CoW BOOSTER.
(but it is recommended)
CoW BOOSTER is a completely separate product and operates completely
independent of any other tuners tune you might be currently running with.
CoW BOOSTER WILL make your tuner's tune SHINE! even if it's not soo good.
The MOST PERFORMANCE POSSIBLE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
GUARANTEED!
Chuck CoW
So this is a software upgrade, not an actual mechanical piece, correct?
When you say performance, are you referring to an actual hp/tq increase and/or possible lower ETs, or is this more of a the car just responds better enhancement? The last statement isn't meant to be derogatory. Many people are looking for simply better throttle response so that in itself is worth something. I'm just curious if that is what it is or if there is a power increase?
I'm interested in the graphs you said you'll post. Although I didn't like seeing the word "photoshop" in there.
I'm sure you didn't mean it that way though. 