Those who have Torque Management disabled
08-04-2008, 06:04 PM
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St. Jude Donor '09
no issues with dealer cuz i havent been there. 2/3 tenths off et,car is nasty and u should use care relearning it.dont do it if you are a weekender or have pretty boy tires on the car
08-04-2008, 06:58 PM
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I have TM disabled on my A6....would like to here long term if anyone had issues with the durability of the trans
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08-04-2008, 07:01 PM
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08-04-2008, 07:50 PM
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Disableing TM will cause more stress on the car at each shift, how much it affects things at launch I'm not too sure. I think the stock clutch is the real enemy at launch(at least in the z). The one thing that helps relieve that stress is wheelspin and you'll get more of that. For those that powershift, if that shift isnt right on point it will put more stress on those driveline parts and could cause something to break, even with a sloppy flat shift it can happen. That being said , I haven't heard of or seen much about broken parts unless the car had DR's on a large bump in HP. As patton already said it will be nasty and feel like a different car but if your into drag racing remember wheelspin hurts your et. DR's kill stock parts, I'll never use them unless I upgrade for strength. Dgdoc...
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08-04-2008, 10:01 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Nothing to worry about.....
Disableing TM will cause more stress on the car at each shift, how much it affects things at launch I'm not too sure. I think the stock clutch is the real enemy at launch(at least in the z). The one thing that helps relieve that stress is wheelspin and you'll get more of that. For those that powershift, if that shift isnt right on point it will put more stress on those driveline parts and could cause something to break, even with a sloppy flat shift it can happen. That being said , I haven't heard of or seen much about broken parts unless the car had DR's on a large bump in HP. As patton already said it will be nasty and feel like a different car but if your into drag racing remember wheelspin hurts your et. DR's kill stock parts, I'll never use them unless I upgrade for strength. Dgdoc...
The primary goal of the torque management system is to minimize loss of traction to keep the driver and the vehicle (and other people) safe.
The secondary goal is to minimize part/component failure so that GM spends less on warranty claims.
Our experience in the past few years has been that removing TQ MANAGMENT DOES NOT break parts or cause failures. Drivers do.
Most tuned A6 vehicles have it totally disabled and there are few if any failures as a result.
Turn it off and have a good time.
Chuck CoW
08-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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08-04-2008, 11:10 PM
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Don't worry about turning it off....It'll likely never hurt anything.
The primary goal of the torque management system is to minimize loss of traction to keep the driver and the vehicle (and other people) safe.
The secondary goal is to minimize part/component failure so that GM spends less on warranty claims.
Our experience in the past few years has been that removing TQ MANAGMENT DOES NOT break parts or cause failures. Drivers do.
Most tuned A6 vehicles have it totally disabled and there are few if any failures as a result.
Turn it off and have a good time.
Chuck CoW
The primary goal of the torque management system is to minimize loss of traction to keep the driver and the vehicle (and other people) safe.
The secondary goal is to minimize part/component failure so that GM spends less on warranty claims.
Our experience in the past few years has been that removing TQ MANAGMENT DOES NOT break parts or cause failures. Drivers do.
Most tuned A6 vehicles have it totally disabled and there are few if any failures as a result.
Turn it off and have a good time.
Chuck CoW
08-04-2008, 11:32 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
If you think so......
If you think so......Then, what do you think is more valuable???
A tranny, or maybe a driveshaft.... or someone's life after they spin out in the snow or rain and die.
Corvette would not sell too well if people thought it was dangerous. Additionally, GM dosen't like lawsuits and hopes you live to a ripe old age so you can keep buying Corvettes from them....
Chuck CoW
A tranny, or maybe a driveshaft.... or someone's life after they spin out in the snow or rain and die.
Corvette would not sell too well if people thought it was dangerous. Additionally, GM dosen't like lawsuits and hopes you live to a ripe old age so you can keep buying Corvettes from them....
Chuck CoW
08-05-2008, 12:15 AM
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Well, I don't know what GM's primary reason for TM is, but if I had to guess I would put driveline stress as number one.
Any car in the wrong hand's can be dangerous, including an 80hp Toyota Tercel. I don't think that putting TM on a 400+ hp 186+mph car was to keep drivers out of trouble. That can be easily attained with a press of the right foot. Active handling will save you but TM won't. No amount of TM in the world will keep a ZR1 from walking sideways with some slighly worn tires on a slightly slick surface. Active handling will, but not TM. JMO.
Any car in the wrong hand's can be dangerous, including an 80hp Toyota Tercel. I don't think that putting TM on a 400+ hp 186+mph car was to keep drivers out of trouble. That can be easily attained with a press of the right foot. Active handling will save you but TM won't. No amount of TM in the world will keep a ZR1 from walking sideways with some slighly worn tires on a slightly slick surface. Active handling will, but not TM. JMO.
08-05-2008, 12:16 AM
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08-05-2008, 08:01 AM
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If you think so......Then, what do you think is more valuable???
A tranny, or maybe a driveshaft.... or someone's life after they spin out in the snow or rain and die.
Corvette would not sell too well if people thought it was dangerous. Additionally, GM dosen't like lawsuits and hopes you live to a ripe old age so you can keep buying Corvettes from them....
Chuck CoW
A tranny, or maybe a driveshaft.... or someone's life after they spin out in the snow or rain and die.
Corvette would not sell too well if people thought it was dangerous. Additionally, GM dosen't like lawsuits and hopes you live to a ripe old age so you can keep buying Corvettes from them....
Chuck CoW
08-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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Well, I don't know what GM's primary reason for TM is, but if I had to guess I would put driveline stress as number one.
Any car in the wrong hand's can be dangerous, including an 80hp Toyota Tercel. I don't think that putting TM on a 400+ hp 186+mph car was to keep drivers out of trouble. That can be easily attained with a press of the right foot. Active handling will save you but TM won't. No amount of TM in the world will keep a ZR1 from walking sideways with some slighly worn tires on a slightly slick surface. Active handling will, but not TM. JMO.
Any car in the wrong hand's can be dangerous, including an 80hp Toyota Tercel. I don't think that putting TM on a 400+ hp 186+mph car was to keep drivers out of trouble. That can be easily attained with a press of the right foot. Active handling will save you but TM won't. No amount of TM in the world will keep a ZR1 from walking sideways with some slighly worn tires on a slightly slick surface. Active handling will, but not TM. JMO.
08-05-2008, 08:11 AM
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