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Old 03-26-2008, 10:12 PM
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Default a converter with 3.42s in the A6?

i see people that have or have riden in an A6 with the 3.42s say they love them and it is the perfect gear for the car. so i was thinking of getting some this summer and getting a converter, just wondering what you guys thought about this combo and what size converter? i was thinking about a 3600

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Dickey,,I'm sure others will have different opinions,but My A6 has 3.15 gears and a 2800 stall from RPM and I think it's awesome!
Now that's not to say a higher stall isn't good,but 3600 is a little TOO high imo!!!
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Dickey,,I'm sure others will have different opinions,but My A6 has 3.15 gears and a 2800 stall from RPM and I think it's awesome!
Now that's not to say a higher stall isn't good,but 3600 is a little TOO high imo!!!


I think a 3600 would be too high.........
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I have a 3200 and plan to add 3.42s, I don't think a 3600 is too big. I may restall mine down the road.

Just pick your tire appropriately. If the car is daily driven I'd say be careful, if its a weekend warrior go have fun. Everyong told me the 3200 was too big, they were wrong. There's a lot of old school trains of thought that run through this place. Whatever you go with just commit to it and pick your supporting mods to fit your application.
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Originally Posted by dicky
i see people that have or have riden in an A6 with the 3.42s say they love them and it is the perfect gear for the car. so i was thinking of getting some this summer and getting a converter, just wondering what you guys thought about this combo and what size converter? i was thinking about a 3600

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Who are they? There is only 1 that drove someones 3.42 A6 for about maybe 20 minutes on the street and determined it to be the best for C6 Tech... Driving a Vette at full WOT from a roll or a traffic light for 5 seconds does not in anyway constitute it to be the "Best"
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Originally Posted by C6 DVL
Who are they? There is only 1 that drove someones 3.42 A6 for about maybe 20 minutes on the street and determined it to be the best for C6 Tech... Driving a Vette at full WOT from a roll or a traffic light for 5 seconds does not in anyway constitute it to be the "Best"
,,,,,Totally!!
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I asked this same question to my tuner, Chuck CoW. He said to the converter of any stall.
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Originally Posted by jmt1669
I asked this same question to my tuner, Chuck CoW. He said to the converter of any stall.
Why? Did you ask? He tried to convince me what I wanted and I told him 3 times I just wanted a price for a rear diff. Never got it.

I'm old enough to decide what I want without someone telling me, and if they don't offer a reason as to why then I take it for what its worth. Just my opinion, take it for what its worth, but I love my converter. Seems to me his customers would be limited to baby cams if they never stalled their cars. What about guys with more than bolt ons?

Just some questions I have.

Again, just seems like old school trains of thought are running rampant, everyone is gung ho to warn about mods, but have no experience with them, just what they've heard or been told.

/rant. This was not directed at you jmt, its just frustrating seeing so many people scared to try something different.
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In my 2001 Camaro SS I have 3.23 gears with an A4 and a 3500rpm stall. Around town driving it is a bit too much (especially with a louder exhaust). Maybe I am getting old but I don't care for my car revving up to 3K+ rpm to go anywhere. With my slightly louder exhaust its just too noisy inside the car.

If you race frequently at the track a 3500-3600 stall is nice but keep in mind you'll really have some traction problems.

When I order my new vette I am planning on going 3.42's with a 3000 stall Yank converter. It should give the best all around driving experience on the street and excellent track performance as long as you can get traction.
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Originally Posted by mkr3686
In my 2001 Camaro SS I have 3.23 gears with an A4 and a 3500rpm stall. Around town driving it is a bit too much (especially with a louder exhaust). Maybe I am getting old but I don't care for my car revving up to 3K+ rpm to go anywhere. With my slightly louder exhaust its just too noisy inside the car.

If you race frequently at the track a 3500-3600 stall is nice but keep in mind you'll really have some traction problems.

When I order my new vette I am planning on going 3.42's with a 3000 stall Yank converter. It should give the best all around driving experience on the street and excellent track performance as long as you can get traction.
I don't think yank goes that low for the A6. Might want to check out the vigs. When I called they had a 34 and 36 I believe.
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I was on Yank's website a week or so ago and I saw a 3000rpm converter for the Vettes but I think it was for the A4. I'm sure they have an A6 version with the same stall - its equivalent to a Vig 2800.
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Originally Posted by jmt1669
I asked this same question to my tuner, Chuck CoW. He said to the converter of any stall.
Really?
I know there was some concern over the complicated TCM/electronics surrounding the 6L80 trans and introducing a higher stall converter into the mix but it appears that's all been worked out now.
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Originally Posted by mkr3686
I was on Yank's website a week or so ago and I saw a 3000rpm converter for the Vettes but I think it was for the A4. I'm sure they have an A6 version with the same stall - its equivalent to a Vig 2800.
Maybe, but they didn't when I called. The A6 verters aren't on their site I don't think.
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Originally Posted by jmt1669
I asked this same question to my tuner, Chuck CoW. He said to the converter of any stall.

WTF....a stall is the best mod you can do to an auto tranny.

For a car raced at the strip I would do a converter before swapping the gears.
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
For a car raced at the strip I would do a converter before swapping the gears.
Absolutely.

I did just that in my Z28, added a Vigilante 3600 but to this day I still have my factory 3.23s in there, though I know a set of 3.73s would REALLY give it some more kick.
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Check out the 1/4 mile list and you will notice that Theofel has an A6 with gears and a "converter". He's the second fastest in that section (external/bolt-ons) so its definitely available somewhere and works well.
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I'm a newbie on this type of stuff. does the 2008 C6 A6 have a stall converter installed? And if so, does it come to play when I press the brake pedal on acceleration?

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Originally Posted by mkr3686
Check out the 1/4 mile list and you will notice that Theofel has an A6 with gears and a "converter". He's the second fastest in that section (external/bolt-ons) so its definitely available somewhere and works well.
He has an rpm converter, made by vig. You'll figure it out bud, I was just trying to help you, not argue.
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Originally Posted by mkr3686
Check out the 1/4 mile list and you will notice that Theofel has an A6 with gears and a "converter". He's the second fastest in that section (external/bolt-ons) so its definitely available somewhere and works well.
its an ls3 and a loooong way to first
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Default Here we go on converters...........

Ok, here we go on converters......

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE CONVERTERS AND RECOMMEND THEM ALL THE TIME.

However....The A6 is a different beast. Tuning becomes more complicated and the lockup clutch has to be managed differently for it to work right.

Additionally, because of the trans ratios and the EXTRA 2 GEARS rpm drop is different than an A4 and I personally think (and have found from experience) that it's not as affective as a higher ratio diff.....

I think a diff and a converter is silly in this (A6) car cause it can be too much power and too "peaky" which causes traction concerns and causes you to have to shift the trans WAY too early for the shift to complete BEFORE the engine reaches the RPM REV LIMITER.

Also, why add massive heat to a trans that we have not tested for 20 years like the the old A4.

I have had several customers purchase A6 converters and later decided that it was not the best money spent and that they were happy with a gear only.

The REAR DIFF MAKES WAAAAYYYYYYY MORE POWER THAN THE converter in this car and aside from NOT changing your part throttle driving, NOT creating excess heat, NOT causing earlier shifts to be commanded, NOT creating additional expense, NOT Needing a BIG COOLER....., and NOT being Necessary to make a fast car.

NOBODY has tuned more A6s than me and I've come across a good few converter cars...I've even tested/tuned one of the very first A6 converters available..... Truth is that THEY WORK.....

THE WHOLE TRUTH IS THAT IT's NOT THE BEST MOD when you can INSTALL A REAR DIFF WITH THE OPTIMAL RATIO FOR YOUR CAR.

Hopefully this weekend I'll post the photos and story for a "special" A6 vehicle that proves my point in spades.....

AGAIN, I LOVE CONVERTERS....But, you have better, cheaper options for the A6....

Contact SPINMONSTER and CRAIGSTER05 on this forum about MY 3.42 A6 diff. They will attest to what I say with first hand experience.

THERE IS NO WAY AN A6 WITH A CONVERTER has a chance against a comparably equipt A6 with one of my A6 ATTACK PACKAGES and MY TUNE.....It's not possible.

Call me if you need more info or want to talk about it.
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