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Old 07-21-2006, 05:04 PM
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Default A6 vs M6 for a turbo vert ??

I had a 99 vert with 418 CID and loved it. But thinking now about getting a 2006 or 07 vert with a A6 or M6.


Thing is Iam going with the APS TT kit when I get the car.

Will the A6 handle the 500 lbs torque and 500+ rhp ????


I know the M6 with a output shaft upgrade will handle the power but what about the A6 ???
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Originally Posted by Iboomalot
Will the A6 handle the 500 lbs torque and 500+ rhp ????
I know the M6 with a output shaft upgrade will handle the power but what about the A6 ???
I don't think the A6 will take repeated blasts on a sticky tire with that kind of power but then again I'm sure how long the M6 would hold up under those conditions either. Clutch is another area that MUST be addressed with the manual.
Under regular grocery getter type use it will last though.
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The jury is out on whether the A6 will handle the power though I think at 500hp/tq it will not be a problem. We already have people running that. So far I have not heard of anyone smoking the tranny. There is an APS TT being put together soon that has the A6. We will see what we see. As I plan this same mod and I already have the A6.
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GM doesn't think it will. Thus no slush box equipped Z06s.

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GM doesn't think it will. Thus no slush box equipped Z06s.

Tom

Wow, that post was amazingly factual.

I often base all my 50,000 dollar purchases off assumptions such as those.
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Originally Posted by Waveblaster785
Wow, that post was amazingly factual.
Well it is at least semi factual LOL, there are no factory automatic Z06s.
But as most of us know it's for a few different reasons and not necessarily simply because an auto can't take the power.
While not quite 505hp, Cadillac does have a 469hp supercharged V8 going through the 6L80E (A6) and that's a much heavier car too.
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Thing is I know a 6sp is cheaper to rebuild and beef up but the A6 is nice due to no miss shifts and just less hassles in day to day driving.

I don't think I will be using slicks but do plan on upgrading wheels and tires to CCW 5 spoke with some wider than stock tires and maybe nittos if traction is a real problem.
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Originally Posted by TMyers
The jury is out on whether the A6 will handle the power though I think at 500hp/tq it will not be a problem. We already have people running that. So far I have not heard of anyone smoking the tranny. There is an APS TT being put together soon that has the A6. We will see what we see. As I plan this same mod and I already have the A6.
The guys at LAPD will twin turbo an A6 in the very near future so it will be extremely interesting to see how the A6 performs with high torque/power.

I'm certain that either the owner of the twin turbo A6 or the LAPD guys will post info as soon as the install and testing is completed.

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LoL Peter, I talking about the guys at LAPD. I would be up for it but my wife is already hounding me about killing my warrenty early. If the A6 holds up then I can put her fears to rest, kinda. Anyway at the rate I'm going I will have 36K on it by this time next year.
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Originally Posted by Waveblaster785
Wow, that post was amazingly factual.

I often base all my 50,000 dollar purchases off assumptions such as those.
Sorry you didn't like my reply. I'm basing my statement on Dave Hill's comment that there will NEVER be a Z06 automatic because the trans simply can't handle it.

You have heard of Dave Hill haven't you?

Perhaps you need to do a bit more research for your $50,000 purchases. I know I do!

Tom

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there where no automatic C5 ZO6 as will. maby because the gear will not handle 405HP. (five extra HP)

so if you install an air filter make sure to change the transmission to a manual one.
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keep us informed about the TT A6 and how she holds the power
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Originally Posted by TCW
Sorry you didn't like my reply. I'm basing my statement on Dave Hill's comment that there will NEVER be a Z06 automatic because the trans simply can't handle it.

You have heard of Dave Hill haven't you?

Perhaps you need to do a bit more research for your $50,000 purchases. I know I do!

Tom
That's a great point, there are no 500hp A6's, and the A6 absolutely couldn't handle the power of the C5 Z06, or the STS which is more power than the old Z06.

Logic my friend, better than quotes.
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Originally Posted by Waveblaster785
That's a great point, there are no 500hp A6's, and the A6 absolutely couldn't handle the power of the C5 Z06, or the STS which is more power than the old Z06.

Logic my friend, better than quotes.
Look at Rdd41 a6 06 403 lpe runs 11.68 on stock run flats . Has 30 to 40 runs at track and around 7000 plus miles on there 403.
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I am planning to add a number of mods on my A6 on Saturday that will take my auto over 520 RWHP. I spoke with Lingenfelter who mentioned that they currently have 4 people running much higher than 520 RWHP and the tranny has been holding up just fine. However, I suppose that constantly running the tranny hard will cause it to break eventually. I plan to use mine for a daily driver and rarely will push the tranny too hard.
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Originally Posted by blue racer c6
Look at Rdd41 a6 06 403 lpe runs 11.68 on stock run flats . Has 30 to 40 runs at track and around 7000 plus miles on there 403.

<----I have an A6, I was being sarcastic.

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